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Old 09-05-2009, 12:52 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas
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I understand that 25 days vacation and 36 hour working weeks are very attractive to lazy people but for people who wants to do more in live there isn't much challange in a country like that....but on the other hand risking having to move to the USA and not having a job in todays economy might be a reason why many people don't want to immigrate right now, but I know that still many people try the DV lotery to get a shot to live here!
Lazy? How about normal?
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Old 09-05-2009, 01:42 PM
 
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Lazy? How about normal?



I work to live - I don't live to work.
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Old 09-05-2009, 01:50 PM
 
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I understand that 25 days vacation and 36 hour working weeks are very attractive to lazy people but for people who wants to do more in live there isn't much challange in a country like that...
I had to work my arse off at my current job for over three years to get up to 20 days vacation a year... Attractive to lazy people?? Go ahead and work yourself to the grave, some of us work to live instead of live to work. I'd probably be more motivated and relaxed at my job (and productive) with 25 days of vacation and 36 hour work weeks.
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Old 09-05-2009, 05:35 PM
 
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Europeans are no longer inmigrating to the u.S. because Europe offers the best quality of life in the world.

If they want to leave Europe, Australia and Canada are the best destinations to relocate outside Europe. (Quality of life, demographics, economy, salaries, healtcare systems, standard of living etc etc)
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Old 09-05-2009, 05:44 PM
 
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I work to live - I don't live to work.
I agree with you... in my case, people in Miami live to work. (people usually have 2/3 jobs in order to cover their basic needs)

This city is just too expensive and we have no mass transit system so each Miamian spends about 500$ per month in trasportation expenses (the majority does not have medical insurance).

I have 2 family members who moved from Miami to Germany and Spain. They both love Europe (They are more relaxed, have only 1 job, lots of friends)
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Old 09-07-2009, 08:58 AM
 
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Or there just isn't any reason to immigrate? Most people immigrate out of economic necessity these days. Europe no longer has teeming massed of impoverished looking for a place to start over and make their own.

I agree with this statement. Europe's standard of living is quite high and in most areas, higher than that of the US. Especially Western Europe. If I could land a decent job in Western Europe I'd move there in a heartbeat.
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Old 09-07-2009, 09:00 AM
 
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Lazy? How about normal?

LOL, I agree. I never knew anyone on their deathbed that said they didn't spend enough time at the office. Europeans, despite claims to the contrary, have a LOT of things right.
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Old 09-07-2009, 09:01 AM
 
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I work to live - I don't live to work.


Cheers to you! Same here!
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Old 09-09-2009, 06:54 AM
 
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Those who desire to be lazy can be lazy, those who desire to just be an employee in a regular company and feel safe there can do so, and those who desire to be productive and entrepreneurial, can do so too.

In my book its called "freedom of choice" and not laziness.
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Old 09-10-2009, 06:33 PM
 
Location: Houston
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Whoever says that Europe's standard of living is low has never been there. Most parts of Europe are even more expensive than the U.S. And why would Europeans leave their excellent health care system and join a ( uh, how can I say this nicely ) crappy system?
I agree with the "economic necessity" statement. That's why they never had the desire to come here.
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