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Old 10-12-2009, 01:25 PM
 
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Tomorrow, October 2, the two-month entry period for the next greencard lottery will begin. Good luck to all participants, but leave one card for me, please
I got this a bit late. I hope things are turning out well for you.
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Old 10-12-2009, 02:37 PM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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I got this a bit late. I hope things are turning out well for you.
Thank you, very kind of you
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Old 10-17-2009, 06:31 PM
 
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Hello:
My wife came from Eastern Europe....why would you want to leave a socialist country...free health care...when we went thru immagration there was no one from Europe there...mostly from India Africa, ect third world countries.
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Old 10-17-2009, 08:39 PM
 
Location: FIN
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My wife came from Eastern Europe....why would you want to leave a socialist country...free health care...when we went thru immagration there was no one from Europe there...mostly from India Africa, ect third world countries.
Ehhh....
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Old 10-17-2009, 10:19 PM
 
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Ehhh....
I don't know. Sometimes I think free health care is a good thing. What if you needed major surgery, expensive surgery and you were short on money? The "don't get sick" argument doesn't work with me because sometimes it happens.
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Old 10-18-2009, 08:06 AM
 
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My wife came from Eastern Europe....why would you want to leave a socialist country...free health care...when we went thru immagration there was no one from Europe there...mostly from India Africa, ect third world countries.
I think (hope) most people would take more than just the healthcare into consideration when moving to a new country
Unless, of course, someone needs treatment that they can't get in their own country.
I'm sure this has happened in the UK, people coming for things like transplantion etc, however not sure if this is legal or illegal immigrants.
Remember that for citizens of EU member states no visa is required to come and work in the UK.
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Old 10-18-2009, 09:47 AM
 
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I think (hope) most people would take more than just the healthcare into consideration when moving to a new country
Unless, of course, someone needs treatment that they can't get in their own country.
I'm sure this has happened in the UK, people coming for things like transplantion etc, however not sure if this is legal or illegal immigrants.
Remember that for citizens of EU member states no visa is required to come and work in the UK.


Slovenia, Slovakia, Poland, Lithuania, Latvia, Hungary, Estonia and the Czech Republic - nationals must file with Workers Rgistration Scheme and Latvians must obtain entry clearance.
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Old 10-18-2009, 10:46 AM
 
Location: Massachusetts
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Well, I have a safe job, money in the bank, was able to buy a house for my family and everything, and I still applied for a green card. Our system (I am from Germany) may be well organized, regarding the great social standards including health care and all that. But I want to move as soon as possible. Why? Call me childish, but I fell in love with the United States 20 years ago when I was an exchange student in Vermont. I have been to all parts of the US over the years and getting on the plane to leave has always been a painful experience. So yes, I am planning on giving up everything I have here, (not my family, they are coming with me of course, :-)), but all the material stuff. I want to be part of a place where people interact in a much more personal and warm way. I have always been amazed at how willing everyone was to help a total stranger, no matter if it was finding a way, explaining how a gas station works over there, or all kinds of helpful acts. I am more than ready to leave a country where no friendly word is spoken, where friendliness is a weakness and where being grumpy seems to be the preferred attitude. No, thank you! Economically, I might put everything at risk with this step, but it's essential for my well-being. (That was a compliment, you guys!!)
Kerstin
Many of us that are native to the USA are looking for this country you decribe. Most of us get very little of this help from a total stranger or these friendly words you speak of. You may have found that in some small areas of this country, but it sure as hell doesn't exist where I live in Oregon. What many of us see is the effects of crime, lack of jobs and lack of health care for many of us. Knowing our neighbors in many areas of the country is limited. Where you speak of Vermont and the New England states. It seems more common to know neighbors than in many areas of the USA. I remember when people knew each other, but it has drastically changed Im afraid except maybe in small towns.

Try to maintain proper health care for a family that cannot afford the ridculous cost of health care. Worse yet the person that is denied Health Insurance because they have a chronic desease. Or the many people that have lost their jobs and with that their Health Insurance. I would think many times over concerning moving from Europe to the USA. The days of immigration to the USA, from other than 3rd world countries seems very limited now days.

Germany pays high taxes and has the services to go with that in their society. Many not all Americans do not want higher taxes to pay for Health Care and Education. As long as they have Health care and Education, they could care less if the rest of the citizens have it. Sorry but its the truth. People moving here should take a close look at American society vs their native country. Especially when they have a family to support.

If you make such a move I certainly wish you the best of luck. I would also recommend that you have the financial means, to return to Germany should that need arise. Always remember visiting a place and living there can be two very different experiences.

Best Of Luck.
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Old 10-18-2009, 12:34 PM
 
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Slovenia, Slovakia, Poland, Lithuania, Latvia, Hungary, Estonia and the Czech Republic - nationals must file with Workers Rgistration Scheme and Latvians must obtain entry clearance.
But that isn't the same as a visa that, for example, a US citizen, would need to come and work here.
We have loads of eastern europeans working in the hospitality industry.
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Old 10-18-2009, 12:45 PM
 
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Many of us that are native to the USA are looking for this country you decribe. Most of us get very little of this help from a total stranger or these friendly words you speak of. You may have found that in some small areas of this country, but it sure as hell doesn't exist where I live in Oregon. What many of us see is the effects of crime, lack of jobs and lack of health care for many of us. Knowing our neighbors in many areas of the country is limited. Where you speak of Vermont and the New England states. It seems more common to know neighbors than in many areas of the USA. I remember when people knew each other, but it has drastically changed Im afraid except maybe in small towns.

Try to maintain proper health care for a family that cannot afford the ridculous cost of health care. Worse yet the person that is denied Health Insurance because they have a chronic desease. Or the many people that have lost their jobs and with that their Health Insurance. I would think many times over concerning moving from Europe to the USA. The days of immigration to the USA, from other than 3rd world countries seems very limited now days.

Germany pays high taxes and has the services to go with that in their society. Many not all Americans do not want higher taxes to pay for Health Care and Education. As long as they have Health care and Education, they could care less if the rest of the citizens have it. Sorry but its the truth. People moving here should take a close look at American society vs their native country. Especially when they have a family to support.

If you make such a move I certainly wish you the best of luck. I would also recommend that you have the financial means, to return to Germany should that need arise. Always remember visiting a place and living there can be two very different experiences.

Best Of Luck.
Actually-I agree with KirstenH.Just because people don't speak in Oregon doesn't mean that is the case everywhere else in the USA. I have found that in the few states I have visited it is more likely that people will speak.
Remember, it isn't just the USA that has changed over the years.
We left the UK for many reasons, and one of them was the fact that people are often rude and selfish.Oneof the others was the ridiculous cost of living.
For us it was our dream too, but that doesn't mean we we didn't do our homework in the 2 years it took us to make the decision.
I wonder if you have ever lived in Europe and if not how many times you have visited?
Your healthcare system may be a problem, as is the system here in the UK, however I think that many Americans don't acknowledge how good they have it (and that isn't aimed directly at any person)
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