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ideally america should be as multicultural as possible but making sure that there are more streamlined proportionate numbers so not one group gets the upper hand etc. but the rest of the world should be able to keep their traditional cultural and country. this is the imbalance i see.
But why? If multiculturalism is so great, if American culture must be destroyed to make the USA some kind of many-nations living inside one fractured nation, then why wouldn't that be great for all countries to do the same?
Multiculturalism is terrible. United we stand, divided we fall -- and division is what multiculturalism is all about.
And also, since impoverished immigrants want to pour into the USA claiming they are starving to death back home, then wouldn't that mean it's THOSE countries who need to change? They are the ones with the perverted cultures that allow people to starve and die unless they make it to the USA.
It's American culture that is the most successful -- it's American culture that works best for people so don't try to kill it off. It is foolish to abandon one's own country because it's failed and insist on bringing it's culture of failure to the USA.
per germany's experience with the turkish that is the problem when the job is over they stay.
As Turkey has been an Associated Member of EU since 1987, a candidate for Full Membership since and the application process runs its due course of about 10 years - it would not look to good to send them back, would it? Especially as a considerable number of the 15-50 generation is German born.
Why do you elect Americans to be the ones for whom it is mandatory to give up their traditional culture and identity? Quite hypocritical of you, yet I suppose you come from a place like China where 95% of the population is exactly the same as you and like it that way and enjoy the advantages of a coherent society that supports each other and maintains their traditions and culture and keeps most outsiders from settling there and upsetting the status quo.
lol, the ignorance. china has 56 different ethnicities. you make it seem it can't be done. it depends on many factors if it's more successful or not as well as what type of policies are in place, how intelligent or effective they are or how clever. china is not a good comparison in relation to america anyways. america is learning as well and defining itself. if it fails multiculturalism, it may not be multiculturalism itself that is the cause. it may just be human desire, weakness, opinion or the time is not ripe or perfect for it.
i said that because it would be hypocritical and unrealistic considering the history of america. it is multicultural. there is no going back. europe, however, is a different story and that is where i made the distinction.
you don't even have an accurate interpretation of american history. what coherency and status quo? america is a different type of country and always has been. it has evolved despite pockets which represent you but people assume thier idea is the status quo. it may or it may not be. this is the blindspot. you are alluding that if there were no immigrants america would be a more unified status quo. the reason for america's greatness is the product of it's diversity from culture to technology. you have a very 'back in the day' mentality which would have to go very far back because even with segregation, it was an unrealistic situation to begin with in the fantasy of status quo and unity when you have other races or immigrants you don't want to deal with whether you brought them there or not. times have changed from since 'long' ago than your antiquated idea of america which never evolved in the fashion you envision. there are whites who are buddhist, atheist, agnostic, unitarian, bahai, satanists, protestant, homosexual, heterosexual, democrat, republican, independent etc.
the status quo is and has been divided. 'upsetting the status quo'? amish is one aspect of americana. it is not all of it as it seems you are quite old-fashioned and stuck in some holly hobby fantasy for every american that never was or is.
And also, since impoverished immigrants want to pour into the USA claiming they are starving to death back home, then wouldn't that mean it's THOSE countries who need to change? They are the ones with the perverted cultures that allow people to starve and die unless they make it to the USA.
It's American culture that is the most successful -- it's American culture that works best for people so don't try to kill it off. It is foolish to abandon one's own country because it's failed and insist on bringing it's culture of failure to the USA.
and you are not discerning the difference between benign aspects of culture or even positive ones that have nothing to do with politics or morals that are destructive. there are, believe it or not, positive or even superior aspects of other cultures. this is not the issue though.
i already made it clear people should work to change their country. as a matter of fact, i am the one who made that point in the first place. this doesn't mean that trade and exchange should be totally stifled as well.
culturally speaking, whether it's possible to be multicultural or not, is really up to the citizenry. some people have the capacity to do so, others don't or don't want to. it's simple as that. if those who don't want to are the majority no matter if they are native or not, it will not work.
it's not a matter of technical impossibility as much as a general concensus. there are pockets of multiculturalism that do work more well but they don't represent the majority or at least not yet.
it depends on how a society identifies itself and what it's priorities are. for some it's a matter of having intelligent people around them and advancement no matter what culture or country they hail from such as nasa. in general society, the priorities are not so finite and more personal feelings and tastes become more an issue thus culture clashes become more an issue of contention and dislike of multiculturalism and differing races.
and you are not discerning the difference between benign aspects of culture or even positive ones that have nothing to do with politics or morals that are destructive. there are, believe it or not, positive or even superior aspects of other cultures. this is not the issue though.
i already made it clear people should work to change their country. as a matter of fact, i am the one who made that point in the first place. this doesn't mean that trade and exchange should be totally stifled as well.
culturally speaking, whether it's possible to be multicultural or not, is really up to the citizenry. some people have the capacity to do so, others don't or don't want to. it's simple as that. if those who don't want to are the majority no matter if they are native or not, it will not work.
it's not a matter of technical impossibility as much as a general concensus. there are pockets of multiculturalism that do work more well but they don't represent the majority or at least not yet.
it depends on how a society identifies itself and what it's priorities are. for some it's a matter of having intelligent people around them and advancement no matter what culture or country they hail from such as nasa. in general society, the priorities are not so finite and more personal feelings and tastes become more an issue thus culture clashes become more an issue of contention and dislike of multiculturalism and differing races.
Culture has nothing to do with race. No - I do not want immigration policies that encourage the impoverished people of the world to move in, hang onto their own third country cultural ways, never make an effort to learn English or assimilate into American culture.
American culture was never about thousands of closed-minded ethnic enclaves of people living just like they did back in the old country, ours is a melting pot culture where people moved forward, left the old ways behind and jumped into the new.
We as Americans have been often criticized for not wanting to be multi-lingual, not learning many foreign languages but that's because to Americans it was most important to learn the common language, have the ability to speak with our fellow Americans. In America we don't have to live the same way as our great great great grandparents living in some far away country, that's not what the USA is about.
What's so wrong with American culture that you think it should be replaced by all the many others and what's so wrong with American unity that you want to break people down by ethnicities and countries of origins?
What's so wrong with American culture that you think it should be replaced by all the many others and what's so wrong with American unity that you want to break people down by ethnicities and countries of origins?
you are accusing me of something that is not my opinion or what i adhere to.
i don't think american culture needs to be displaced. but i am also realistic enough to know that american culture comprises the influence of different cultures. it is not all negative but enriches. this is natural to any country besides conceptual ideas of being. even asia has many western elements now as well as other countries.
not assimilating by not speaking the language is not acceptable or not obeying laws of a country. it's important to discern the difference between those immigrants that do assimilate and those who don't. it seems you are painting all immigrants with a broadbrush.
i came to america and learned english and i don't speak other languages to americans in america. learning different languages is great in itself but doesn't pertain to those who simply do not want to try and get along in a country. of course there needs to be a single language to communicate as well as general laws that need to be adhered to so people can get along despite their personal tastes or preferences.
a lot of the racial tension has to do with many sides to this situation. it will be awhile before america is more streamlined culturally. countries usually start volatily until those differences are worked out. as well volatilism and differences is what often sparks something new and innovative, it's just the nature of the beast. america is still a young country.
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What is "American Culture" in your opinion?
For one our culture is just as valid as any other country's culture. Culture is what shapes a nation.
Our language, our history, our music, our heros, our approach to doing things, our view of ourselves as a people. Our middle class openness, lack of caste or strong classism.
Those who insist that they cannot adapt to our culture but must hold onto their old country's culture should just stay in the old country.
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