Japan paying immigrants to go home and never come back (health care, laws)

[ArizonaBear]

Originally Posted by texdav

But the chinese think the same of the japanese and Koreans.Even the vietnamese think this way. I've seen vietnamese that will shun the Korean wife of a brother. Its hasn't changed for centuries and probably wouldn't it's so ingrained.

That seems to be less of an issue here in the USA: mutual racism against Asian looking people as a group would tend to override Japanese/Korean/Chinese, etc. cultural differences I bet.

[Neuling]

Originally Posted by ArizonaBear

BS:

Looking at our growing unemployment rate----------we certainly do not need illegal aliens for anything. They are a net liability.

That assumes that unemployed US-Americans are willing to perform any jobs.

[Lucario]

Originally Posted by ArizonaBear

Frankly; I wonder if the prejudice is directed more against 'Japanese' Hispanics. Why I say that is in many cases Americans of even 1/2 'Japanese' lineage tend to be more accepted by Japan as potential citizens.

The children of a former (White) US Army deserter to N Korea (Jenkins was his name, no link handy) were accepted as 'Japanese', not 'gaijin' by the Japanese people since their Japanese mother had been kidnapped by N Korea years prior.

One of the reasons Japan is sick of its Japanese Latino population is that they won't assimilate!

They raise their Japanese-born children speaking Spanish and/or Portuguese and won't teach them Japanese.

[Sweden]

Originally Posted by ArizonaBear

The children of a former (White) US Army deserter to N Korea (Jenkins was his name, no link handy) were accepted as 'Japanese', not 'gaijin' by the Japanese people since their Japanese mother had been kidnapped by N Korea years prior.

I'm not going to get involved in this discussion, I don't know enough about the matter so I'll just stay away. Just read this post and couldn't figure it out (slept bad tonight)
So the mother was Japanese and the father American? And they were born in North Korea? And most children born 1. of a non-Japanese parent and/or 2. born abroad should in Japanese society be called gaijin?
Did I interpet it correctly?

[Houston3]

Originally Posted by Exitus Acta Probat

What is "cultural inbreeding"?

I think it's another word for racist..

I've been to Japan and it's a pretty nice country...

And the people are very friendly.

His China and Korea thing goes back over 60 years...

I guess we could bring up the German thing too. But that too goes back over 60 years.

[averagejoe76]

He said the United States had been “a failure on the immigration front,” and cited extreme income inequalities between rich Americans and poor immigrants.[/quote]


I have to admire the Japanese,they may be too hardline on immigration..
But there is no threat of the Japanese becoming a minority in their..
Own country.Now if they just work on that birthrate.

[Neuling]

Originally Posted by averagejoe76

I have to admire the Japanese,they may be too hardline on immigration..
But there is no threat of the Japanese becoming a minority in their..
Own country.Now if they just work on that birthrate.

Apart from the Gulf Emirates I don't know any country where locals are becoming a minority in their own country.

[averagejoe76]

Originally Posted by Neuling

Apart from the Gulf Emirates I don't know any country where locals are becoming a minority in their own country.

Its possible in many western countries in my lifetime.
Huge rates of immigration + low birthrates.

[Neuling]

I guess that reflects your fears rather than reality, in case you are talking about the US:

"Current immigration rates are moderate, even though America admitted more legal immigrants from 1991 to 2000 (between 10-11 million) than in any previous decade. In the most recent decade, the 10 million legal immigrants that settled in the U.S. represent an annual growth of only about one-third of 1% (as the U.S. population grew from 249 million to 281 million). By comparison, the highest previous decade was 1901-1910 when 8.8 million people arrived increasing the total U.S. population by 1 percent per year as the U.S. population grew from 76 to 92 million during that decade. Specifically, "nearly 15% of Americans were foreign-born in 1910, while in 1999, only about 10% were foreign-born.""

Even if you add the 10 or so million illegal immigrants, the percentage of foreign-born people in the USA is about 14%, which is not much for a traditional immigration country. The problem in the States is the extreme internal differences in terms of employment, ethnic distribution, income etc.

[cgadams]

Japan's mindset is one that I think Europe should adopt as well. There are now neighborhoods in Amsterdam, Paris, and London that you can't even walk in because the sons of third world immigrants have skyrocketed the crime rates. And I did read an article a while back that said that if current immigration rates and birth rates continue England won't have a white majority passed 2060. The article may be biased. I am not sure as I cannot calculate those future numbers. I know it shouldn't, but it does upset me to see the country of my ancestors lose their culture.

According to population forecasts, Japan's population will shrink from 127 million today to about 90 million in 2050 if they do not increase their birth rate or increase immigration. This implies that the country will lose influence on world wide economics as they will be smaller than they are today. However, they will still retain their homogeny, and as such, will still remain one of the world's most peaceful countries.

I support Japan's decision.

Population Reference: World Population Prospects: The 2008 Revision Population Database