Negative comments from NON U.S citizens in America (illegal aliens, USA, work)

[malamute]

Originally Posted by rory00

Give people with some intellectual integrity a break! Americans judge, complain, stereotype, and even bash other countries, peoples, cultures, customs, religions, governments ad infinitum freely, judgementally and often pompously, prejudicially and ignorantly as well!

As for the op, your post has a very sanctimonious and unrealistic tone and viewpoint. There are americans who work and reside in other countries who judge, complain, critique, and bash the country they are residing in or aspect(s) of it. What makes you think others don't have a right to express negative opinions about america or americans or whatever they think?

I would ask them the same thing - why would you stay in a place you don't like? I have zero respect for people whose only love is money. Too many immigrants lust for the American money and will gripe about everything else. I would guess the same goes for Americans living in foreign countries they hate. It's the love of money, money trumps all else.

[kilkee78]

Hi,

I am a permanent resident in the US and came to here originally on an internship, met someone, got married, etc. and live here for almost 7 years.
Now, I understand that US citizens are proud of their country and yes, there are a lot of great things here. Many things are so different from Europe, many things are better and many things are unique. BUT there are some things that I - as a non-citizen - still find weird or don't like. And there are some things that I will always miss from my home country and there will always be some things that are just better in my home country.

That is completely normal. If one of you would move to a new country, you would feel the same way. That's what makes everything interesting and fun. To discover what is different and what is better or worse somewhere else. I have met many people here and most of them are open minded when I make a comment about what it was like in my home country. There are some that feel offended by it. Please don't be. Just see it as a learning and living experience. I didn't know what was better here and better "at home" until I got here.

Let me just give you some examples:
- I used to have 6 weeks vacation - now I have 2... Guess what I liked better?
- My family and longterm friends are not here - but my new family and friends are
- Back home my tax deduction was 30% - now it's a lot less ...
- And of course: no one can beat european chocolate or pastries ;-)

Again, don't get offensive when someone complains about something in the US. Remember that person is far away from their home and maybe didn't know about that particular thing he/she is complaining about. Maybe they are not complaining at all, but simply making a statement. Be open minded to those around you and learn from them. What would life be like if we all have to agree with everything we see and had to like the same things?

[harrymiafl]

As an immigrant newcomer,I understand that many people emigrate to USA only for the money.
They don't like America & they don't want to become Americans.
The gov can do nothing against them. If they learn the answers to the citizenship test questions,they will eventually get citizenship.
There is no mechanism to measure ..."Americanism ",pass some & reject others...
Maybe immigration has to be restricted even more...Japan style...

[bluebeard]

I think it depends on the tone and delivery. It's fine if its constructive criticism, honest occasional pointing out of thinks you like or dislike, and even some occasional unreasonable kvetching now and then (any traveler knows that you need to blow off a little steam about the differences sometimes, even if you overall enjoy the place). There are people who take out everything, including their personal issues, on constant unreasonable criticisms about the place they have moved to or are traveling though. Just don't listen to those people. While I'm in the US it doesn't bother me much. Ignore them if they are looking for an audience. However, if they are spreading disinformation in another country or region I admit I might take issue.

[STT Resident]

Originally Posted by bluebeard

I think it depends on the tone and delivery. It's fine if its constructive criticism, honest occasional pointing out of thinks you like or dislike, and even some occasional unreasonable kvetching now and then (any traveler knows that you need to blow off a little steam about the differences sometimes, even if you overall enjoy the place). There are people who take out everything, including their personal issues, on constant unreasonable criticisms about the place they have moved to or are traveling though. Just don't listen to those people. While I'm in the US it doesn't bother me much. Ignore them if they are looking for an audience. However, if they are spreading disinformation in another country or region I admit I might take issue.

Sounds reasonable overall to me. My home for the last 25+ years has been in this US Territory. Prior to this I lived in Connecticut for 17 years and prior to that I was born and raised in the UK. The old adage, "When in Rome ..." always appealed to me and has contributed to my being adaptable wherever I've lived or have traveled to.

The OP created this thread, has never come back to it, he/she never created a CD profile and it was his/her sole post on this or any other CD forum.

In other words, I can only assume that loudob2 posted such a question not because he/she was especially concerned about looking for a response but is rather vicariously enjoying the back and forth.

Since the OP obviously has no interest in the thread, we should let this one go? More ops will arise in due course!

[sierraAZ]

Originally Posted by malamute

I would ask them the same thing - why would you stay in a place you don't like? I have zero respect for people whose only love is money.

Please let me know where that item is to be found these days...

Look, dear, I might be foreign-born, but I've been living here for years, I'm a US citizen, and I pay Uncle Sam (not to mention I’ll continue paying him even if move to another country permanently! only in the United Corporation of America!); therefore, I'll express my opinion as much as I please and wherever I please! Deal with it!

[EscravaAnastacia]

If an immigrant is CONSTANTLY complaining you would wonder WHY that individual is still here and what was his/her reason for coming here in the first place? Immigrants need to stop "listening" to the tales of a Golden Eldorado known as the USA where the streets are paved with gold and money grows on trees and even the poor drive Bentleys and dress in Gucci and Prada.

Seems to me as if too many immigrants listen to tall tales of America, sell all they have and then come to America and find out it's just a NATION like any other on the planet - a mixture of good and bad. I know we have beat the "America is the land of opportunity" horse to death and I will be the first to say, as an American citizen soon to be relocating to Brazil, it ain't necessarily so.

There are no Nirvanas, Shangri-Las or Utopias out there folks. If you are going to pay an enormous amount of money to relocate then you had BETTER know what you are getting into. Permanent visas to Brazil are astronomical so I made sure to thoroughly investigate what I was getting into because I did not want to pay out the money and then find out too late what I was getting myself into.

I did my research. I don't know everything about Brazilian culture but I know enough to know that I can live with my decision.

I say do your research and don't listen to anyone spinning tall tales about any nation. You won't ever know all there is to know about a place but if it sounds too good to be true - it probably is. I know everyone wants to come to America and chase down that dollar bill but immigrants have to realize that Americans pay a HUGE price for so-called economic advantages - stress, stress and more stress cuz these corporations ain't in business to give away money, they are in business to make it and many time they will make it at employee expense. Some jobs allow u to make a good living in the States but you have to give up a life outside the job and be prepared to do a 60-80 hour workweek with little time for vacations.

[I_Love_LI_but]

^^^
Keep us posted on how things go in Brazil.

I am sincerely interested in reading about experiences of emigrating FROM the USA. Something different for a change!

[slapmatt]

You guys (in the US) should think yourselves lucky.

At least you don't have to put up with this kind of stuff.

[Threestep]

Originally Posted by slapmatt

You guys (in the US) should think yourselves lucky.

At least you don't have to put up with this kind of stuff.

Sounds a lot like CA during the Vietman War.