03-02-2011, 02:08 PM
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We also looked at one of Judd's developments but in Coopersburg. We were put off that their 450k quick delivery home included their standard features of formica and linoleum for the kitchen. For that price I would have expected corian and tile. Toll and Pulte include these types of things as standards at a lower price point. We were totally turned off when they showed us the linoleum samples. We also drove out and checked out Brookshire but it seemed pretty far out for us.
Did you guys find another area to build in (that you liked)? I haven't found too many other spots. There were actually a couple but (on a map) they seemed to be pretty close to train tracks. That would not be a good thing!
03-02-2011, 04:20 PM
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Did you guys find another area to build in (that you liked)? I haven't found too many other spots. There were actually a couple but (on a map) they seemed to be pretty close to train tracks. That would not be a good thing!
We are now just looking at quick delivery and newer houses. We realized it would take at least 6 months to build a new house. We just didn't have that much time. We are leaning towards Parkland because the taxes seem lower and we can get a bigger lot (also flat). That's not to say you can't find that in East Penn but it is harder to find in our price range.
03-04-2011, 06:52 AM
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Have you been out to visit the area yet? If not, you really need to come out and drive around.
Selling in Zionsville is very difficult - pretty, but very rural and off the beaten path.
We are in a Pulte house in the East Penn SD after a long, long search of the area. The difference in taxes between the two districts is not big enough to base your decision on.
As a mom of young kids, I would want to be in more of populated area with moms' groups, preschools, etc.
03-04-2011, 08:16 AM
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Have you been out to visit the area yet? If not, you really need to come out and drive around.
Selling in Zionsville is very difficult - pretty, but very rural and off the beaten path.
We are in a Pulte house in the East Penn SD after a long, long search of the area. The difference in taxes between the two districts is not big enough to base your decision on.
As a mom of young kids, I would want to be in more of populated area with moms' groups, preschools, etc.
Well, you have some good points. We are coming up very soon to look around at neighborhoods. The house we buy now we aren't planning on selling anytime soon. My husband grew up in the Macungie area. He swears Zionsville is only 15 min. to LVH & everything else we would want to get to. The neighborhood we're looking at is actually in the East Penn SD.
My SIL lives in Farmington Hills. I know Graymoor is right near there too. It is more convenient to everything & I'm sure there are lots of kids to play with (and mommies to become friends with, for me). We'll have to see...
Thanks again!
03-04-2011, 10:11 AM
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My husband grew up in the Macungie area. He swears Zionsville is only 15 min. to LVH & everything else we would want to get to.
He is right, it is only 15 minutes to the hospital, Emmaus, or Macungie, give or take a few minutes depending on traffic.
Even though Zionsville is rural, if you are in a development, you don't have to worry about kids to play with, they will be all around.
03-04-2011, 10:35 AM
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Did you guys find another area to build in (that you liked)? I haven't found too many other spots. There were actually a couple but (on a map) they seemed to be pretty close to train tracks. That would not be a good thing!
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Have you been out to visit the area yet? If not, you really need to come out and drive around.
Selling in Zionsville is very difficult - pretty, but very rural and off the beaten path.
We are in a Pulte house in the East Penn SD after a long, long search of the area. The difference in taxes between the two districts is not big enough to base your decision on.
As a mom of young kids, I would want to be in more of populated area with moms' groups, preschools, etc.
We are considering moving to Parkland and you worry me a bit with your comment about moms groups, preschools, etc. When we drove around Orefield, Schnecksville, there seemed to be lots of developments. Do less young families live in these areas? I don't want to be the only mommy out there.
As for my comment on taxes earlier, I noticed a difference of about 2-3k between the districts for comparable houses (size, age, lots). This might have just been the case for the houses we looked at and it is not a deal breaker for most buyers.
03-04-2011, 11:54 AM
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I just thought of another question - Is Coopersburg about as far from Macungie & Emmaus as Zionsville is? My SIL seems to think Coopersburg & the Saucon Valley region is "up and coming". Maybe Zionsville will be like that one day??? What do you all think?
We would be building in a neighborhood. So, yes, I guess there would be kids around us. Hopefully we wouldn't be too far from preschools or Moms' groups, etc...
03-04-2011, 01:15 PM
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Congrats on the move. I know exactly where Brookshire is...beautiful homes with beautiful lots. We visited there about a month ago and absolutely loved it. I have not heard any bad things about the builder either. Your husband is right, Macungie is about a 15 min. drive from there- I would say more like 10. Yes, it is a little far out there....but it is a development that will eventually grow. A friend of mine lives in Pennsburg, which is only about 5-10 min away, and yes, there is a super Wal-mart w/ other stores about 5 min. from the neighborhood. Her son attends Hereford and she has no complaints, although I personally would want to stick w/ East Penn SD. I would say you should ask yourself what kind of lot you want as the lots in Brookshire are much larger- like 1-2 acres.....Lehigh Crossings, Graymoor you will find smaller lots, 1/2 acre or even less. We looked at Graymoor, liked the neighborhood but the lots were too small and we felt there wasn't much to choose from w/models, I believe there were only 4 to choose from.
03-04-2011, 01:22 PM
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I just thought of another question - Is Coopersburg about as far from Macungie & Emmaus as Zionsville is? My SIL seems to think Coopersburg & the Saucon Valley region is "up and coming". Maybe Zionsville will be like that one day??? What do you all think?
We would be building in a neighborhood. So, yes, I guess there would be kids around us. Hopefully we wouldn't be too far from preschools or Moms' groups, etc...
Coopersburg is a bit further, but not much.
Honestly, I don't see Zionsville being much more than a bedroom community. There is a lot of farm land and open space in the area, so I don't see it being heavily developed in the near future.
The other thing to mention about Zionsville, is it is up on the mountain, not down in the "Lehigh Valley" you actually have to go down rather steep grades to get to either Macungie or Emmaus. This also leads to getting more snow in the winter. In my past experiences(which were few) the roads (rt. 29 & rt. 100) were always well maintained in snowstorms, but, it could be treacherous going down them during a storm.
It really depends on what you like. Do you prefer being in highly developed areas, like the Macungies, or in a community with more trees and open space around you. I prefer the latter, which is why I love the Orefield/Schnecksville areas of Parkland.
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We are considering moving to Parkland and you worry me a bit with your comment about moms groups, preschools, etc. When we drove around Orefield, Schnecksville, there seemed to be lots of developments. Do less young families live in these areas? I don't want to be the only mommy out there.
As for my comment on taxes earlier, I noticed a difference of about 2-3k between the districts for comparable houses (size, age, lots). This might have just been the case for the houses we looked at and it is not a deal breaker for most buyers.
If you drive around the communities in Orefield/Schnecksville you will see that they are compromised mainly of families with children. You can also see the plethora of jungle gyms and trampolines in the backyards to confirm this.
You will not be the only Mom.
$3,000.00 a year is a car payment, I'll take that savings.
03-04-2011, 01:25 PM
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When your kids are little it's easy enough to do playgroups in your neighborhoods but once the kids start school it gets more complicated if they are in different school districts. Sports and Scouts are usually done through the schools and car-pooling would be pretty impossible. Once they are in Middle and High School, it's even harder for kids to maintain friendships when they are in different schools. We could have gotten more house for our money if we had bought in East Penn, but when we saw our neighborhood with all the kids our kids ages and the distance to the schools, it just felt right to us.
It looks like Macungie is about 10 minutes from Zionsville, Emmaus is 14 minutes and Coopersburg is 20. I find the latter hard to believe because I know I can make it to Lower Milford Elementary from my house in 10 minutes and that's just down to road to Zionsville.
Southern Lehigh is known to be up and coming, probably because of the numerous developments of McMansions, The Promenade Shops and the industrial park with Olympus, D&B and Lutron in Coopersburg. I believe we have the highest cost of housing in the area. The latter is not an especially good thing, IMO. I'm not sure Saucon's reputation is changing much. After re-reading your post perhaps you mean Southern Lehigh and are referring to it as "the Saucon Valley region".
Zionsville is more of an area then a lively town. Coopersburg, Macungie and Emmaus are all real towns with a history, schools, historical societies, mayors, etc.
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Most Common Occupations - Food preparation and serving related occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Building and grounds cleaning and maintenance occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Personal care and service occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Sales and office occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Sales and related occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Office and administrative support occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Natural resources, construction, and maintenance occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Farming, fishing, and forestry occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Construction and extraction occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Installation, maintenance, and repair occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Production, transportation, and material moving occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Production occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Transportation occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Material moving occupations (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - Correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Federal prisons and detention centers (%)
People in Group quarters - Halfway houses (%)
People in Group quarters - Local jails and other confinement facilities (including police lockups) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military disciplinary barracks (%)
People in Group quarters - State prisons (%)
People in Group quarters - Other types of correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Nursing homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards, hospices, and schools for the handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards and hospices for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospices or homes for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Military hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Other hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)