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Old 11-19-2007, 04:26 PM
 
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I lived in Little Rock for 15 years, now I live in Searcy.
Little Rock is just too damned dangerous, full of crime.
I much prefer it here. It's that simple

I'm sure it's dangerous if you go around trying to pick fights with people or waving a gun. But seriously "just too damned dangerous"?? I"m wondering what has happened in the past 11 months since I was last there that would qualify it for that description. True there are some shady parts, but there are shady parts of Searcy. I'm sure there are never any hunting accidents/wife beatings/kid beatings going on there. LR is not a dangerous place, though there are some parts that I do avoid, but the majority of it is just as friendly as those small, white flight towns.
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Old 11-19-2007, 06:14 PM
 
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I'm sure it's dangerous if you go around trying to pick fights with people or waving a gun. But seriously "just too damned dangerous"?? I"m wondering what has happened in the past 11 months since I was last there that would qualify it for that description. True there are some shady parts, but there are shady parts of Searcy. I'm sure there are never any hunting accidents/wife beatings/kid beatings going on there. LR is not a dangerous place, though there are some parts that I do avoid, but the majority of it is just as friendly as those small, white flight towns.
Just keep it to yourself and stay in Little Rock. If we don't like Little Rock and think it's dangerous, we have every right. Moderator cut: insulting
For the record, I see a murder every day in Little Rock on the news. But I'm sure we're just blowing that out of proportion.

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Old 11-19-2007, 06:36 PM
 
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Just keep it to yourself and stay in Little Rock. If we don't like Little Rock and think it's dangerous, we have every right. But you making a thread and responding to every negative opinion of the city is just silly. Find a better use of your time.

For the record, I see a murder every day in Little Rock on the news. But I'm sure we're just blowing that out of proportion.
For the record, I'm fairly certain "we" ARE blowing that out of proportion, since LR does not have 365.5 murders in a year. Hell, I think we had just reached 50-something for the current year not too long ago.

I will agree that there may be a murder reported in the news on a daily basis, but they're not all in LR.
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Old 11-19-2007, 06:41 PM
 
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I'm sure it's dangerous if you go around trying to pick fights with people or waving a gun. But seriously "just too damned dangerous"?? I"m wondering what has happened in the past 11 months since I was last there that would qualify it for that description. True there are some shady parts, but there are shady parts of Searcy. I'm sure there are never any hunting accidents/wife beatings/kid beatings going on there. LR is not a dangerous place, though there are some parts that I do avoid, but the majority of it is just as friendly as those small, white flight towns.

LR's not a dangerous place, yet it somehow managed to rank 13th in the latest "most dangerous city" in the country list AND Chicago, which seems to be notorious for being so horrific, doesn't even get an honorable mention?
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Old 11-19-2007, 10:47 PM
 
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What a weird thread.
Growing up in rural Arkansas, I never came across anyone who was envious of Little Rock.
People either didn't have an opinion of it, or they didn't like it. The funny thing is, when I was living in Little Rock, that was the exactly the attitude of the people who actually lived there.
Before you Little Rock defenders jump all over me, I know that some folks like the town.
I don't hate it. It is a special place to me for certain reasons. I would never live there again, and there is no reason to ever visit, either. The city itself is rather forgettable.

Crime.

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LR's not a dangerous place, yet it somehow managed to rank 13th in the latest "most dangerous city" in the country list AND Chicago, which seems to be notorious for being so horrific, doesn't even get an honorable mention?
Little Rock is actually 23rd on that list. It's easily one of the smaller towns on the list. That's always been my beef with LR...way too small to have it's problems. No, it's not Detroit, Compton, or St.Louis, but Little Rock is much worse than a lot of it's peer cities.
People on these threads try to defend Little Rock by saying, "that's just the way it is in most major metro areas"....Well, that's all well and good until you realize LR isn't "major". Don't compare it to cities with 5 million, compare it to other cities of 650,000.

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Old 11-20-2007, 08:15 AM
 
Location: The Rock!
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Don't compare it to cities with 5 million, compare it to other cities of 650,000.
That's not going to make your point very well. Baltimore is smaller than that. So is Compton, Washington DC, Flint MI, Camden NJ, and a LOT of other really nasty cities. LR population is only about 180k. You were doing a lot better when you were comparing it to the Des Moines' of the country. I don't even think the MSA is getting close to 650. If you take the whole MSA as your measuring stick and you get to include all of the murders and things NOT taking place in the rest of Pulaski and Faulkner (I can't remember if Conway is part of the Little Rock MSA for the census or not), then LR's per capita stats would go way down. These statistical reports seem like such great comparators because you get numbers to characterize things but if you aren't told how it's been calculated and you don't have intimate knowledge of each area and what's generating the issues then you can be very easily misled. I believe the data used in this report only includes crime within LR and only uses the LR city population but if you want to know that for sure, you have to buy the report...go figure...

There are just SOOOO many things one can do to massage this type of data. The data can easily be skewed by the reporting standards of each municipality. In fact, cities in Illinois and Minnesota were not include because data was "unavailable", whatever that means. You can easily misrepresent reality in smaller municipalities by not clearly defining the range of standard deviations you are including. Smaller cities are much more likely to have data that outlies 2 or possibly even 3 standard deviations from the long term mean by having a bad year. Heck, it could conceivably happen in some towns this report included because one or two gang bangers move into town and start causing trouble for a few weeks! I'd bet almost anything this report ONLY takes into account last year's crime data and doesn't correct for long term trends.

This isn't a defense of LR or anywhere else. Just my opinion of what can be done with statistical compilation and reporting when the underlying purpose of the reporting is less than altruistic.

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Old 11-20-2007, 09:40 AM
 
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Smile powers that b e

yuppers you cannot trust the powers that be thats for d sure! not much has changed in this ole country. one has to try and see through all the fog and politics to decide what the heck is going on!
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Old 11-20-2007, 10:36 AM
 
Location: Whiteville Tennessee
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I do believe this is the silliest question I've ever seen on this page! Geeeeesh!
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Old 11-20-2007, 02:30 PM
 
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Little Rock is actually 23rd on that list. It's easily one of the smaller towns on the list. That's always been my beef with LR...way too small to have it's problems. No, it's not Detroit, Compton, or St.Louis, but Little Rock is much worse than a lot of it's peer cities.
People on these threads try to defend Little Rock by saying, "that's just the way it is in most major metro areas"....Well, that's all well and good until you realize LR isn't "major". Don't compare it to cities with 5 million, compare it to other cities of 650,000.
It actually depends upon which list you look at as to whether it's ranked 13th or 23rd.

Either way, I find it semi-amusing when people from other COUNTRIES are terrified to go to LR b/c of those reports. I personally have never had a problem in LR. Er, well, relatively few (and minor at that) issues. We finally moved to Maumelle after several years. Most would say a safe(r) place. Even better since we moved into an area where the majority of the residents are retired. Nice, calm, quiet, peaceful, etc. And, now, we have a hole in our house from a bullet (which is still lodged between the walls). A few inches to the right and it would've gone through our window into a room where our child was playing.

Sh*t happens regardless of your location. Yeah, we should all be mindful of our surroundings, probably would think twice about moving to certain areas, etc., but even those "safe" places can frak you over.
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Old 11-20-2007, 06:52 PM
 
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I'm sure it's dangerous if you go around trying to pick fights with people or waving a gun.
I worked with a guy that was mugged and shot at a laundromat. An aquaintance was shot while waiting for the bus. Someone getting shot while waiting for the bus actually happened a few times during the short while I lived there. They weren't picking fights.

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That's not going to make your point very well. Baltimore is smaller than that. So is Compton, Washington DC, Flint MI, Camden NJ, and a LOT of other really nasty cities. LR population is only about 180k.
I was refering to metropolitan statistical areas (M.S.A.'s). Little Rock's is roughly 650k, and the 5 million was just a generic number I threw out to make a point. Maybe I should have used 2 or 3 million. On per capita crime stats for entire m.s.a.'s, I will admit ignorance.
The thing is, every time a report on the country's most dangerous cities comes out, Little Rock is ALWAYS on some top 25 list, regardless of who's putting out the information, or how it is "massaged".
Little Rock always stands out on those lists because it is much smaller than most of the other cities whether it's in "city proper" terms, or m.s.a.'s.
HBO made a documentary on Little Rock's gang problem, for crying out loud. Maybe it was the shocking crime in a such a small town that caught there eye.

When compared to similar sized m.s.a.'s across the entire country, Little Rock is still one of the worst.
I will have to admit (I can't believe I'm doing this) that Little Rock doesn't look so bad when compared to other southeastern m.s.a.'s it's size. It's still at or near the top of the crime list among even those places, however.

When someone asked "Little Rock vs. Larger Cities", I say go for the larger city, because Little Rock has very similar crime issues and a lot of the other problems that much larger areas have. Might as well go for the better pay check, not have to scrape pennies, and have fun while you're at it. Why mess with a place that's culturally anemic?
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