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Old 03-02-2009, 06:57 AM
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First of all, Louisville and Memphis are nearly identical in size whether it is metro, CSA, or urban area, or city population. Get your facts straight.
No, they're not. Louisville's population is inflated because of city-county consolidation. The population of Louisville proper was 256,231 at the 2000 Census. The population of Memphis proper was 650,100 at that same time. (In fact, the population of Louisville proper is really not all that much bigger than Little Rock. And Louisville proper has shrunk dramatically over the last few decades; that, in part, necessitated the city-county consolidation.)

If you want to use the consolidated city-county population for Louisville-Jefferson Co., then you have to do the same for Memphis-Shelby Co. That's what we commonfolk call 'apples to apples'. The 2000 population for all of Jefferson Co. was 693,604, while the 2000 population for all of Shelby Co. was 897,472.

There's a reason why Louisville's population always has an * beside it whenever it's listed.

Get your facts straight.

Oh, and gosh, I've surprised myself by looking at the numbers. If Louisville proper only has 256k, and the county total is 693k, that would mean that only 37 percent of the county's residents reside in the city proper. That would make Louisville one of the most sprawling cities in the US. Yuck. Memphis and LR are much, much more compact.

Facts will get you everytime.

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Old 03-02-2009, 10:37 AM
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Still, the dirth of nightlife in this district on BOTH a thurs and fri was disheartening.

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Get your facts straight.

Oh, and gosh, I've surprised myself by looking at the numbers. If Louisville proper only has 256k, and the county total is 693k, that would mean that only 37 percent of the county's residents reside in the city proper. That would make Louisville one of the most sprawling cities in the US. Yuck. Memphis and LR are much, much more compact.

Facts will get you everytime.
Well Little Rock was 8th worst city for sprawl back in 1998, and in my opinion it has only become worse since then. Little Rock itself only has a population of 100K and change but the metro area will possibly top 700K in the 2010 census. The only reason the city of Little Rock hasn't been losing population rapidly is the sprawl out in West Little Rock cancels out the population loss inside the loop. Even worse, most of the sprawl isn't even suburban sprawl like you would see in other cities, its exurban/small-town bedroom community type sprawl. I would hardly say Little Rock is compact at all.
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Old 03-02-2009, 08:09 PM
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Half a dozen, styx? That's shocking to me, and I lived in LR over a summer. If that's the case, traffic certainly goes up in warmer months. I remember seeing dozens of people, and dozens of bikers every day when I lived at block II lofts. In fact, I remember being kind of proud at how many bikers took up the streets around downtown. It was comparable to the Loop in St. Louis.
Surprising to me too. Someplace like Kavanaugh, especially over by Allsopp Park, you'll see all kinds of people out and about--running, walking the dog, or just out for a stroll--at just about any time of the day or evening. Including the winter months. And living downtown, I see LOTS of people biking on the River Trail, which goes from downtown to West Little Rock, across the river on the Big Dam Bridge (the longest pedestrian bridge in the world, btw) and back up the NLR side.

Also, there's a LOT of pedestrian action in the River Market when the Farmer's Market is open from April to October. Plus there's concerts and movies at the amphitheater, and ballgames at the park in NLR. Unfortunately activity downtown does wane quite a bit during the winter months.
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Surprising to me too. Someplace like Kavanaugh, especially over by Allsopp Park, you'll see all kinds of people out and about--running, walking the dog, or just out for a stroll--at just about any time of the day or evening. Including the winter months. And living downtown, I see LOTS of people biking on the River Trail, which goes from downtown to West Little Rock, across the river on the Big Dam Bridge (the longest pedestrian bridge in the world, btw) and back up the NLR side.
What is astounding (to those of us who lived in larger cities) is how empty downtown actually is. There is a lovely walk behind the River Market (start of the River Trail) but I'm usually a solitary figure when I'm down there.
Allsopp Park is also very quiet. In the Spring/Fall time you would expect to see more people walking along Kavanaugh but that is not the case.

The city has potential though and I hope it becomes more vibrant.
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All that sounds pretty accurate to me. Little Rock isn't the greatest place on Earth, in fact my plan is to eventually move far away from here. But, if you want a low cost of living and aren't culture starved, it's an okay place to be.
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Old 03-03-2009, 06:19 PM
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What is astounding (to those of us who lived in larger cities) is how empty downtown actually is. There is a lovely walk behind the River Market (start of the River Trail) but I'm usually a solitary figure when I'm down there.
Allsopp Park is also very quiet. In the Spring/Fall time you would expect to see more people walking along Kavanaugh but that is not the case.

The city has potential though and I hope it becomes more vibrant.
Yeah, hardly anybody seems to use that beautiful river walkway. Probably scared of getting jacked, thanks to all the people who talk trash about how bad crime is in this city. My kid and his friends run around that area all the time, though. Hopefully more people will realize what they're missing. I don't know what you mean about Kavanaugh, though. There are always people out there! I mean, we're not talking Manhattan levels of activity, but come on. I haven't spent much time in Allsopp Park itself, though, so I can't speak to that.
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I have been panhandled way too many times in the River Market,but I've never really felt unsafe down there.
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