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Old 04-29-2013, 10:49 AM
 
Location: London, UK
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So why are they flooding the previously predominantly working class area.
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Old 04-29-2013, 11:01 AM
 
Location: Southern England.
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Maybe because other property in other areas which were previously affordable, are increasing in price and Hackney and areas nearby are next to see an influx of these types?

This kind of influx has been seen in other parts of London.

I love the one about the person who says that they live in St Ockwell.
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Old 04-29-2013, 11:03 AM
 
Location: London, UK
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No serious question
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Old 04-29-2013, 11:05 AM
 
Location: Southern England.
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No serious question

I've reworded my answer P London.
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Old 04-29-2013, 11:14 AM
 
Location: London, UK
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Its weird its like Kensington mixed with Brixton yucky! These types are most always snobby and tend to keep away from working class people, the class boundary is very evident and I feel uneasy going down to the eastend.
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Old 04-30-2013, 11:00 PM
 
Location: England.
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The mythical London working classes disappeared to the suburbs several decades ago, and it was not yuppies who made them decide to leave. I remember much talk of gentrification when living in Hackney in the 1980s, but you can't polish a turd. Wouldn't go back if you paid me, and neither will the others who left for pastures greener.
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Old 05-01-2013, 02:01 AM
 
Location: Where else but London
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The mythical London working classes disappeared to the suburbs several decades ago, and it was not yuppies who made them decide to leave. I remember much talk of gentrification when living in Hackney in the 1980s, but you can't polish a turd. Wouldn't go back if you paid me, and neither will the others who left for pastures greener.

Who says you can't polish turd? The "turd" appears to be polishing up nicely at the expense of minorities and the less affluent by White middle class, arty types and young professionals who are flocking in. And you are right, it wasn't the yuppies that pushed out working class whites. White flight to the home counties and suburbs occurred because white working class thought the hood was getting a little to dark for them.

Now there is a different type of white flight into Hackney.

http://www.hackneyhive.co.uk/index/2...-at-what-cost/

http://www.hackneyhive.co.uk/index/2...ckney-gazette/

http://www.hackneyhive.co.uk/index/2...going-to-live/

http://www.hackneyhive.co.uk/index/2...urys-proposal/

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Old 05-01-2013, 08:26 AM
 
Location: London, UK
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I'm all for gentrification but there seems to be a ugly tension in the east end. The ''yuppies'' stick to themselves and there is no integration. Why can't an area nice up without this stupid class divide.
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Old 05-01-2013, 02:24 PM
 
Location: England.
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Has anyone actually used the word yuppie since 1986?

Areas change. Where would you prefer white arty types to live, and what business is it of yours? There were probably plenty who did not want mass immigration into London, but you can't stop people choosing to move into an area. Everyone has to live somewhere.
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Old 05-08-2013, 08:00 AM
 
Location: Paris, France
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The short answer is that the more established "arty"/"hipster" neighbourhoods (i.e. Islington, Shoreditch, Camden) are actually now so advanced in the gentrification process that they are too expensive and too "mainstream" for hip arty types, and for young people in general – even those on good salaries. This is because the international super-rich are in turn pushing out the British bourgeois/elite from their traditional haunts in Chelsea, Kensington etc who are now all over Islington etc. Hackney and Dalston are now the natural choice for a young person starting out in London on a modest salary – whether or not they are a "yuppie" or "hipster".

Another factor is the improvement of transport links and general fall in crime in places like Hackney. People who say Hackney is a hole have obviously not visited for years – off the main estates, it's a pretty nice place to live. Unlike Tower Hamlets (which, despite its location, is I feel still largely ungentrified), Hackney – despite its reputation for poverty and high crime – has a genuinely diverse population, loads of green space and lots of good, Victorian housing stock.

Same process is happening all over major world cities – NYC and Paris have the same phenomenon. But its particularly acute in London as the city cannot expand outwards due to the Green Belt laws and demand for London property and London living keeps on soaring – despite the recession.
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