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Old 07-09-2010, 07:37 AM
 
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because fireworks are our biggest concern these days...
There's that logic again. The state passes a law because things are legitimately dangerous (and mortars shells are, as proven this summer), but you bring up the fact that the authorities aren't doing anything about it, and it's YOU who are the bad guy. Stop trying to spoil peoples fun with explosives.
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Old 07-09-2010, 07:39 AM
 
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There's that logic again. The state passes a law because things are legitimately dangerous (and mortars shells are, as proven this summer), but you bring up the fact that the authorities aren't doing anything about it, and it's YOU who are the bad guy. Stop trying to spoil peoples fun with explosives.
I was sarcastic and think that fireworks are NOT our biggest concern.
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Old 07-09-2010, 07:50 AM
 
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I was sarcastic and think that fireworks are NOT our biggest concern.
Yeah, I knew that, and I was pointing out how backwards you thinking is.
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Old 07-09-2010, 07:51 AM
 
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Yeah, I knew that, and I was pointing out how backwards you thinking is.
what?

fireworks, one day a year, is a bigger concern than any of the stuff that people are whining about on this forum?
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Old 07-09-2010, 08:12 AM
 
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what?

fireworks, one day a year, is a bigger concern than any of the stuff that people are whining about on this forum?
Then don't have a law.


A law that can be randomly enforced at the discretion of the authorities isn't a good law.

"We made a huge seizure of illegal fireworks in Flushing!! A few Chinese guys now have serious criminal records!! "

Next week the same guys who made the seizure are blowing off tons of gunpowder in their backyards on the 4th, or looking the other way because the guy blowing them off runs the fire house.

I don't know, I have this thing about justice and fairness. It's very un-American of me.
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Old 07-09-2010, 08:23 AM
 
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Then don't have a law.


A law that can be randomly enforced at the discretion of the authorities isn't a good law.

"We made a huge seizure of illegal fireworks in Flushing!! A few Chinese guys now have serious criminal records!! "

Next week the same guys who made the seizure are blowing off tons of gunpowder in their backyards on the 4th, or looking the other way because the guy blowing them off runs the fire house.

I don't know, I have this thing about justice and fairness. It's very un-American of me.
There are MANY dumb laws on the books these days.

Dumb Laws in New York. Crazy New York Laws. We have weird laws, strange laws, and just plain crazy laws!
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Old 07-09-2010, 08:29 AM
 
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I wonder if the OP isn't really upset about the fireworks as much as angry they weren't invited to the block's festivities on the 4th.
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Old 07-09-2010, 08:45 AM
 
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Here's the thing... there are people who are idiots and shouldn't be blowing off fireworks. But you can't just make a law that says 'idiots can't blow off fireworks" - it has to be for everybody.

I used to consider this kind of stuff social Darwinism... but packed together on a tight island... these idiots take the rest of us down too.

Case in point - I keep my boat on a trailer in a storage lot. It's got boats, RVs, landscaping trucks etc. It's all business... just a gravel and dirt lot with a barbed wire fence and a combo lock. I pay good money for my spot. There's this idiot who has some equipment there who treats it like a social club... picnic tables, people drinking... gate left open.

I trailered the boat out east this past weekend and about midnight on July 4th, I get to the lot with my boat in tow to drop it off and it's loaded with kids having a kegger... and they are blowing off mortars... in this lot, filled with boats and trucks with vented gas tanks. Idiots.

I wonder how many village cops passed that lot and shrugged?
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Old 07-09-2010, 09:04 AM
 
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what?

fireworks, one day a year, is a bigger concern than any of the stuff that people are whining about on this forum?
Where did you get the "One Day A Year".....?

It seems to go in cycles, spreading out weeks or even a month or more building up to the 4th, and even a week or two after. Then something seems to happen, either people get fed up, the law cracks down, or in this case probably the economy, and it shortens down again to a week or so building up to the 4th. Then starts to spread again repeating the cycle.

Christmas shopping seems to follow a similar cycle, the difference is Santa doesn't loose an arm.
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Old 07-09-2010, 09:05 AM
 
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can't say I hear fireworks any time other than the 7/4 block of time.
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