Avoid Long Island If You Can (Huntington, Long Beach: real estate, affordable apartments, rent)

[samyn on the green]

You moved 48 times? Are you in the circus or something? Clown, trapeze artist or elephant waste removal engineer?

I have a very strong suspicion you are the OP signing in as someone else to rush to your own defense since nobody else agrees with you.

If you have moved that many times you are clearly a malcontent. Find what you like and stay there. You don't even last long enough to understand the people where you live. When you are this unhappy you color every place you move to with doddie colored glasses. You do not understand Long Island, the people that live there and their background.

Don't sign in as someone else Spartan you are as transparent as glass.

Originally Posted by kanine

i have to agree with spartan185. i have moved 48 times in my life... i moved to long island in 2003 and found EVERYTHING he/she talked about to be accurate (actually seemed like he/she was being a bit kind). of all the places i have lived long island is the second place i would/will never return to.. in fact it is number one on my list of ****holes..... the responses posted even seem to me to prove the point he/she was making... any of you folks on long island had a cross burned on your lawn? a college professor there i knew did.... strikes me that too many people are living in the past when it comes to long island - its not what it was in the 50's and 60's. pretending it is does'nt make it so.. as for the italian american comments spartan 185 made.... sounds right on the money to me.... i lived in my neighborhood for 3+ years and unless you were italian american they would barely acknowledge you.... all attitude and no accomplishment...just a bizare belief that somehow because they were italian american (or whatever) and from long island that somehow theirs didn't stink... it baffles me that so many people seem to think such a ****hole/long island has any redeeming qualities...

[justus5]

What about the fact that there are areas that have excellent schools and you have the ability to have a 40 minute commute to NYC. I was raised in Queens and we fled there when it turned into the slums. Alot of people in LI are originally from urban areas such as Queens, Brooklyn etc. So for a better life alot of people were looking for options. You dont get anything for your money in NYC, queens or brooklyn either. In NYC to get a crappy studio is extremely expensive. If you buy a home in queens or brooklyn etc. the homes are attached, --yuck-- there is no parking anywhere and the schools are disgusting. Metal detectors? that is no better than LI? Hence because it is a desirable area because of the schools, safety or whatever everyone wants to go and it causes houses to gas up. Makes logical sense.The same goes for Westchester, NJ, Conn...

[Dedalus]

Plenty of parking.
Safe.
Plenty of people...just like you.

Come one, come all. Move to Long Island.

Stay there.

[birdrgal]

It was also a very racist place, as all the bridges even on the parkways, built by Robert Moses were designed to be lower, to exclude buses coming from the city with minorities.

The bridges on the parkways were designed that way in order to fit with the whole concept of "parkway", in other words a scenic route lined with trees for CARS ONLY (not heavy noisy commercial vehicles a la Queens and Manhattan).
They were built of stone for that reason (design aesthetics and to give the feeling of being in the country, a la New England).

Oh well, some people are determined to see "racist conspiracy" in every possible thing, I guess. IMHO this bridge theory is one of the sillier ones.

[principessa927]

Originally Posted by ihateny

Also, when William J. Levitt built Levittown, the first suburb of long island, he had to exclude blacks and jews as this was a common practice at the time. The same people who went to war and gave their lives for this country were not allowed to buy homes.

Levittown was built specifically for the men returning from war.

Also, before anyone makes judgement on Long Island, I think you need to live here more than 3 years. You're so quick to judge, but 3 years is not enough time to think you're the subject matter expert.

[Dedalus]

Originally Posted by principessa927

Also, before anyone makes judgement on Long Island, I think you need to live here more than 3 years.years is not.

Without the possibility of parole?

Escape From New York III; Asleep with the Sheep

[Dedalus]

Originally Posted by birdrgal

The bridges on the parkways were designed that way in order to fit with the whole concept of "parkway", in other words a scenic route lined with trees for CARS ONLY (not heavy noisy commercial vehicles a la Queens and Manhattan).
They were built of stone for that reason (design aesthetics and to give the feeling of being in the country, a la New England).

Oh well, some people are determined to see "racist conspiracy" in every possible thing, I guess. IMHO this bridge theory is one of the sillier ones.

The story is from Robert A. Caro's book, "The Power Broker."

My reading of it was that the bridges were built that way so buses could not drive on the Northern State. If someone has the book (I don't anymore) correct me if I'm wrong.

[onrway2clt]

Opinions have now become facts.

[wanna stay on north shore]

OK, I'm going to attempt to redeem the image of all Ph.D's.... and bring some even-tempered reason to this conversation.

I'm a life long LI'er.... and have always been perplexed by people who voluntarily move to LI, and then proceed to complain throughout their stay, all the while saying rude and obnoxious things about the natives, and the region.

All regions (especially those outside major metro areas) have their faults and pitfalls... I acknowledge the warts and pimples of LI, and the other tri-state suburbs....... HOWEVER, I remain suspicious that the exceptionally negative experience of these LI newcomers is primarily due to their attitude. Being grumpy and cynical will bring out the worst in those around you. I worked with two of these grumpy newcomers, and was sooooo happy to see them leave 'and go back where they belong'. They were miserable, and hated both me and our boss, simply for being native LI'ers. All conversations had to do with how wretched LI was, and how horrible the inhabitants were....

LI, just like everywhere else, is what YOU make of it. Can you deal with the regional problems, or would you prefer to avoid them? If you want to avoid them, MOVE to somewhere without these problems..... and do it without the drama and complaining....

I like living here. It's close to both NYC and the beaches. I can deal with the high cost of living, and the LI phenotype. Not everyone is the same as you....

[kanine]

2 things i'm curious about..

1.. how do any of the responses to spartan185 suggest his/her comments were anything other than right on the money?

2.. does clamboy ever have any original thought/quotes of his own?