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Old 10-27-2011, 04:21 PM
 
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Let me get this straight. Some of you guys think tiger parenting is a good thing and also that teachers should be able to take away recess, when studies have shown that children, especially children with ADHD, tend to display MORE disruptive behavior on days when they don't get recess. Some kids absolutely need that physical activity in order expend energy. As for asian children being at the top of the class - this is true, BUT it comes with a heavy price. Cornell conducted a study and found that asian kids were FAR more likely to commit suicide during their high school and college years due to the extreme pressure to earn high grades. The statistics were quite alarming. I think a more moderate approach would be better. Emphasize the importance of education, but don't be so overbearing. Kids should NOT be taught to be unquestioningly obediant. Being respectful and doing whatever an authority figure says are two entirely different things. Both my children are bright and have minds of their own. My daughter is now a successful aerospace engineer and my son is also going into the engineering field. I was always involved with their education, but I never wanted them to become mindless automatons seeking the best grade. Thirst for knowledge is far more important.
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Old 10-27-2011, 04:43 PM
 
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if you have a doctors note, you can get out of gym like I did for 2 years.
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Old 10-28-2011, 07:54 AM
 
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Let me get this straight. Some of you guys think tiger parenting is a good thing and also that teachers should be able to take away recess, when studies have shown that children, especially children with ADHD, tend to display MORE disruptive behavior on days when they don't get recess. Some kids absolutely need that physical activity in order expend energy. As for asian children being at the top of the class - this is true, BUT it comes with a heavy price. Cornell conducted a study and found that asian kids were FAR more likely to commit suicide during their high school and college years due to the extreme pressure to earn high grades. The statistics were quite alarming. I think a more moderate approach would be better. Emphasize the importance of education, but don't be so overbearing. Kids should NOT be taught to be unquestioningly obediant. Being respectful and doing whatever an authority figure says are two entirely different things. Both my children are bright and have minds of their own. My daughter is now a successful aerospace engineer and my son is also going into the engineering field. I was always involved with their education, but I never wanted them to become mindless automatons seeking the best grade. Thirst for knowledge is far more important.
The problem is that what you think is "unquestioningly obedient" and "respectful" are probably different than what someone else thinks.

I hear all this hyperbole about the schools expecting "blind obedience". All that I see from my kids school are the following requirements: don't hit or push anyone, sit down when you're told to sit down, and shut your mouth when the teacher is talking.

If people think that's "unquestioningly obediant"..than the problem is that person and their kid, not the schools, and over the last 30 years the number of numbskull parents with this attitude has skyrocketed.
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Old 10-28-2011, 08:32 AM
 
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Let me get this straight. Some of you guys think tiger parenting is a good thing and also that teachers should be able to take away recess, when studies have shown that children, especially children with ADHD, tend to display MORE disruptive behavior on days when they don't get recess.
Perhaps the ADHD children, who (as you indicate) are more disruptive when not active, should be placed in special classes to better coordinate their learning needs and necessary physical activity. That would totally go against the inclusion model, though.


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Some kids absolutely need that physical activity in order expend energy.
Some kids need to learn how to behave in social settings, too. The kid who is jumping about during mass, who has his/her hands all over everything in the store, who is disrespectful of adults (teacher, neighbors, own parents) doesn't need physicals activity as much as s/he needs DISCIPLINE. Being corrected when a child engages in inappropriate behavior isn't accomplished through spanking, but by removing privileges or favorite toys/possessions. Losing recess (a privilege) is an effective measure in the classroom.

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As for asian children being at the top of the class - this is true, BUT it comes with a heavy price. Cornell conducted a study and found that asian kids were FAR more likely to commit suicide during their high school and college years due to the extreme pressure to earn high grades. The statistics were quite alarming.
Please provide a link as this is something I would like to read.


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I think a more moderate approach would be better. Emphasize the importance of education, but don't be so overbearing. Kids should NOT be taught to be unquestioningly obediant. Being respectful and doing whatever an authority figure says are two entirely different things. Both my children are bright and have minds of their own. My daughter is now a successful aerospace engineer and my son is also going into the engineering field. I was always involved with their education, but I never wanted them to become mindless automatons seeking the best grade. Thirst for knowledge is far more important.
I grew up in a household where there was a lot of stress put on my academics, what teachers said was law. One year a teacher called attendance, I was there and she marked me out. I was threatened with detention, my parents freaked. I had the dittos -- teacher said anyone could have given it to me. I had classmates vouch I was there but it was an uphill battle.

My experience made me physically sick come finals, and to this day, when things are stressful with work, I still get that way. It's not a good thing.

When I had my children I made a promise to myself to be involved, to not be my parents, and to always question a teacher and my child if something wasn't right.

I believe in respect for all, and discipline when needed to correct an undesirable action; but do not feel children in school today are mindless automatons or unquestioningly obedient.
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Old 10-29-2011, 06:57 AM
 
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Phys Ed and recess are very different. Yes, recess is a privilege. They can take recess away. Phys Ed is state mandated so they can not take that away. There are only a few schools on LI that meet the 120 minutes per week. Most elementary schools only get 80.
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