Propane AND Oil in prospective house (appliances, water heater, to buy)
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My wife and I recently saw a house where the homeowner has oil heat with baseboard (no gas line on street) and propane gas to run the stove and fireplace. They had 2 100 gallon tanks in backyard behind pool house so out of site. The wife is from England and she hates electric stoves. I was wondering if anyone has seen this and if it is better to keep this setup using I assume a minimal amount of propane to run the stove, fireplace, grill and pool heater or would it be better to consider converting to a gas unit in case street gets a gas line. The main road that this block feeds off of has gas and National Grid has a large facility not too far from where this home is located so getting gas is possible. However based on the stories I have read, propane could actually be more expensive because it doesn't have as many BTU's even though it runs more efficiently than oil.
My wife and I recently saw a house where the homeowner has oil heat with baseboard (no gas line on street) and propane gas to run the stove and fireplace. They had 2 100 gallon tanks in backyard behind pool house so out of site. The wife is from England and she hates electric stoves. I was wondering if anyone has seen this and if it is better to keep this setup using I assume a minimal amount of propane to run the stove, fireplace, grill and pool heater or would it be better to consider converting to a gas unit in case street gets a gas line. The main road that this block feeds off of has gas and National Grid has a large facility not too far from where this home is located so getting gas is possible. However based on the stories I have read, propane could actually be more expensive because it doesn't have as many BTU's even though it runs more efficiently than oil.
There are many areas on Long Island (primarily in Suffolk County) where no gas lines currently exist. As a result, homeowners who prefer cooking with gas, use propane as alternative - a very common practice here.
Just as an FYI, when I checked with National Grid re availability and cost to get connected a couple of weeks ago, they quoted a cost of about $75/ft for the gas line AFTER the first 100 ft, which are free. They also mentioned that if you can get 5 people on the same block to convert, they might consider waiving that--but it was not a blanket promise, only conditional on a particular location.
My wife and I recently saw a house where the homeowner has oil heat with baseboard (no gas line on street) and propane gas to run the stove and fireplace. They had 2 100 gallon tanks in backyard behind pool house so out of site. The wife is from England and she hates electric stoves. I was wondering if anyone has seen this and if it is better to keep this setup using I assume a minimal amount of propane to run the stove, fireplace, grill and pool heater or would it be better to consider converting to a gas unit in case street gets a gas line. The main road that this block feeds off of has gas and National Grid has a large facility not too far from where this home is located so getting gas is possible. However based on the stories I have read, propane could actually be more expensive because it doesn't have as many BTU's even though it runs more efficiently than oil.
I have this setup in my house... Oil heat with baseboards and propane for the stove.... eventually the drier too...
There are many areas on Long Island (primarily in Suffolk County) where no gas lines currently exist. As a result, homeowners who prefer cooking with gas, use propane as alternative - a very common practice here.
Just as an FYI, when I checked with National Grid re availability and cost to get connected a couple of weeks ago, they quoted a cost of about $75/ft for the gas line AFTER the first 100 ft, which are free. They also mentioned that if you can get 5 people on the same block to convert, they might consider waiving that--but it was not a blanket promise, only conditional on a particular location.
And in my case not cost effective since I am 700ft from the nearest gas line...
Same set up here (except we use the LP for the stove only)...good timing on this post because i have been thinking the same thing.
We have no gas lines withing a reasonable distance so its not worth going that route.
I have two 23 gal LP tanks (46 gal total). That lasts us about 6-8 months and we use it. Propane is now over $6 a gallon. If you convert this to useable energy it is actually MORE EXPENSIVE than LIPA electricity (BTU for BTU).
To the OP...you'll be using LP for more than I do so your rate should be less, but probably not much. Just a heads up that LP is a lot right now.
Same set up here (except we use the LP for the stove only)...good timing on this post because i have been thinking the same thing.
We have no gas lines withing a reasonable distance so its not worth going that route.
I have two 23 gal LP tanks (46 gal total). That lasts us about 6-8 months and we use it. Propane is now over $6 a gallon. If you convert this to useable energy it is actually MORE EXPENSIVE than LIPA electricity (BTU for BTU).
To the OP...you'll be using LP for more than I do so your rate should be less, but probably not much. Just a heads up that LP is a lot right now.
We were just trying to get an idea on bills. I know I pay around if not over $4 a gallon for oil. I have a 200+ gallon tank that during the winter needs to be filled every month at $800 or so. $6 a gallon for propane. Damn. I have been telling my wife for the stove and fireplace if we were to buy this place is no big deal but if we were to start converting water heaters, appliances etc.. that could be super expensive. If the rest of block doesn't want to convert I doubt National Grid lays down the gas line for 1 customer and even if they did would charge us. Then if someone else wants to convert in a year or two, there is no cost to hook up other than from the house to the pipe in the street so no incentive there.
We were just trying to get an idea on bills. I know I pay around if not over $4 a gallon for oil. I have a 200+ gallon tank that during the winter needs to be filled every month at $800 or so. $6 a gallon for propane. Damn. I have been telling my wife for the stove and fireplace if we were to buy this place is no big deal but if we were to start converting water heaters, appliances etc.. that could be super expensive. If the rest of block doesn't want to convert I doubt National Grid lays down the gas line for 1 customer and even if they did would charge us. Then if someone else wants to convert in a year or two, there is no cost to hook up other than from the house to the pipe in the street so no incentive there.
You'll probably pay less per gallon because you use more, but over time LP for heat would be a Lot.
We were in a similar boat (oil vs. LP) and we bought a pellet stove, which was the best move I have ever made. I spent $600 in pellet fuel to heat my house this whole winter and used about 1/3 tank of oil. You might want to look into them. There are others on the boards who have them also.
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