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Interesting point in so far as DC is not an actual State but I'm still calling foul for encroachment.
My original question wasnt answered.What is the benefit to the greater community when even fellow Jews are in opposition?
1. I dont see how DC being a state or not is relevant - the first amendment etc all apply to DC as well as any state
2. I dont know what encroachment you are talking about
3. I am not sure why there has to be benefit to the entire community. What benefit is there to the community when I play poker with my friends, or order a pizza? Those are private acts, conducted by a private individual. In our society we look for a public interest, direct or indirect, before restricting private activity.
4. Fellow Jews have a right to object to something that other Jews are for. Their views are not privileged on that account - just as the views of members of any groups are not privileged.
The chinese were not always in bensonhurst. In fact neither were the italians.
I see no relevancy to your points.
? Should I be running away or something, just because I disagree with it? I am staying and fighting, just like how there are people fighting for the Eruv in WH, for what I think should be going on.
3. I am not sure why there has to be benefit to the entire community. What benefit is there to the community when I play poker with my friends, or order a pizza? Those are private acts, conducted by a private individual. In our society we look for a public interest, direct or indirect, before restricting private activity.
Putting a bunch of wires in public areas on public property by municipal employees != private acts.
1. I dont see how DC being a state or not is relevant - the first amendment etc all apply to DC as well as any state
2. I dont know what encroachment you are talking about
3. I am not sure why there has to be benefit to the entire community. What benefit is there to the community when I play poker with my friends, or order a pizza? Those are private acts, conducted by a private individual. In our society we look for a public interest, direct or indirect, before restricting private activity.
4. Fellow Jews have a right to object to something that other Jews are for. Their views are not privileged on that account - just as the views of members of any groups are not privileged.
One would argue that a public improvement (other than for the handicapped) should be in the interest of the many?
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I am not sure what you mean by diluted - is there a stricter approach to an eruv that you advocate?
The approach of rabbis over the centuries is to make leniencies in small areas, that make observance easier, rather than to abolish whole areas of the law - with profound effects not only on Jewish practice and jewish life, but on other areas of the law. As a Conservative Jew, a member of a group that ordains women rabbis and recognizes same sex commitment ceremonies, I see no compelling reason to relax shabbos restrictions. If anything I see Jews favoring movements that demand more of them, and reward them with a deeply fulfilling shabbos experience.
If you feel more comfortabnle with a different approach though, you could join a Reform or Reconstructionist shul. If you are a conservative Jew, well you can argue against the likes of me within the framework of our movement.
If you are not a Jew, I dont see how Jewish shabbos law is more of a concern of yours, than say, priestly celebacy or the language of the mass is a concern of mine (I do not consider EITHER issue a concern of mind, BTW)
I do not advocate any eruv. Part of Wikopedia “In modern times, when housing is not typically organized into walled courtyards, rabbinic interpretation has permitted this requirement to be met by creating a continuous wall or fence, real or symbolic, surrounding the area to be aggregated” If they can interpret it from a traditional physical structure than they can go the next step and make it symbolic.
As for Synagogue membership most articles I see show a decrease in enrollment and a lesser observance of the practices among American Jews.
I was raised in a conservative shul but am non-practicing. I really have a hard time dealing with the earth bound administration of religions. I would like to see a Reconstructionist Shul I have read about them and it looks interesting. There not here but a Messianic Congregation is and I’ll pass.
I grew up dealing with the momzer’s of New Square and Monsey. These people may live as they choose but when they start trying to change communities to suit their needs they have pushed it.
One would argue that a public improvement (other than for the handicapped) should be in the interest of the many?
As for pizza it must be 420.
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A public improvement funded by the public. Something done by a private entity, no.
In the case of a regulated public utility, if it involves a cost that will impact their rates, then yes, it would need to be of public benefit, but the utilities in this case have stated there would be no fiscal impact.
I do not understand what you mean by a pizza being "420"
A public improvement funded by the public. Something done by a private entity, no.
In the case of a regulated public utility, if it involves a cost that will impact their rates, then yes, it would need to be of public benefit, but the utilities in this case have stated there would be no fiscal impact.
I do not understand what you mean by a pizza being "420"
"No fiscal impact"? Are people volunteering their time, vehicles, and wires (or whatever they use) to do this? Doubtful. No such thing as a free lunch.
"420"
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