Where in Long Island are interracial couples accepted? (Levittown, Hope: how much, living)

[omigawd]

Do you recall the presidential nominations in 1984? Just curious. Barack Obama --- bi-racial, not black --- is, by no means, a pioneeer or a revolutionary or anything like that.

I also believe many people (dems) are voting for him because they dislike Hillary. Well, now we have Ralph Nader in the mix once again, so let's see how the numbers get all screwed up THIS time around!

At any rate, I would hope that the OP can find a great neighborhood to live in and raise a family in. I hope they don't have to go through any nonsense because they're an interracial couple. I hope they will have neighbors who will see them for who they are and not just look at their skin color.

[Smash255]

Originally Posted by omigawd

Do you recall the presidential nominations in 1984? Just curious. Barack Obama --- bi-racial, not black --- is, by no means, a pioneeer or a revolutionary or anything like that.

I also believe many people (dems) are voting for him because they dislike Hillary. Well, now we have Ralph Nader in the mix once again, so let's see how the numbers get all screwed up THIS time around!

At any rate, I would hope that the OP can find a great neighborhood to live in and raise a family in. I hope they don't have to go through any nonsense because they're an interracial couple. I hope they will have neighbors who will see them for who they are and not just look at their skin color.

As someone who voted for Obama in the primary that voted for Hillary in both of her Senate runs, while I can't speak for everybody I would say the majority of Obama's votes are Pro-Obama rather than Anti-Hillary.

With that being said I do wish the best for the original poster, but I don't think they will have much of a problem. No matter where you go a few ignorant bad apples here and there will have a problem with it, but as a whole I don't think they will have much of a problem here. This is Long Island not the deep south.

[DonnaReed]

Originally Posted by andybuildz

I've left some facts to back up my assertions regarding nrbes' statement then I go on to ask you a question regarding yours and you answer my question with another question????So does that mean you want me to debate with myself? LOL

It's called "rhetorical" questioning.

To have you think.

I anticipated you thinking about what comprises racism, for example slavery.

Think about how white men benefit from slavery.

(I'm an educator; guiding folks to find their own answers rather than providing the same is ingrained in me.)

[DonnaReed]

Originally Posted by andybuildz

Racism is a fact of life for a lot of people...racism had been a huge fact in my own life being a Jew so I'm far from a stranger to it but your answer once again is not much of an answer. I think we all recogonize predjudice.
In todays world here on LI compared to years ago I believe we've come a long way and while racism will always exist it doesn't come close to the way things were years ago. We've come leaps and bounds since then. There will always be idiots where ever we go.
I'm a 56 y.o Jew that was brought up in a predominantly black neighborhood of Corona Queens my whole kid life and to this day my best friends are of color so I'm pretty well versed in what racism is all about and how it effects us in the here and now.
Here in the Huntington township I have witnessed very little racism. While it does exist, its a far cry from what it used to be. Its not much different than neighbors being spiteful and vendictive when they see how another neighbor puts a fence up around their house or the color they paint it. I've seen more fighting over that than of the colors of their skin....in todays world.
I've personally had an Afgani kid work for me for a cpl of years and Adil is a person of color...maybe worse in some peoples eyes being from the mid east and I've met his parents and brother. According to them they haven't had any issues with neighbors on LI.
Blanket statements are worthless....to me. Open dialogue is the only tool that can set us free.

Interesting post.

I've never considered Jewish a race.

Today when folks think of Jewish, they think white, which tells a story in and of itself.

Prejudice and racism are not the same.

I have friends who are Jewish, but I'm not.

Because you've "witnessed" very little racism is not evidence that very little exist. Neither is the fact that your employees may not choose to discuss their personal racist experiences with you.

[NYNewbie]

Originally Posted by omigawd

Here's the deal..... most "white" communities are not 'accepting' of a black family moving in. An interracial couple? That's even worse (according to them).

A white woman I used to know was married to a black man. They both had good jobs, made a lot of money and could more than afford the home they purchased in a "white" community. Well, the neighbors accused them of being "drug dealers", they called them names (salt & pepper, dalmation, oreo, etc). One night, someone threw something through their livingroom window. They called the police. They were out front talking to the police and one of the cops suddenly screamed MOVE IT/GET DOWN.....and shoved them aside as he was yelling in his radio for back up. Someone had put a makeshift "bomb" under one of their cars.

So much for 'acceptance'. This was about 15 years ago. I don't know if much has changed since then.

I know communities where this sort of thing happens. Cicero, Illinois comes to mind. But on Long Island? Now? I find it hard to believe. Yes, I'm well aware that there is antipathy generated by mixed-race couples, but it varies with geography. New York is one of the most diverse places on earth. This isn't Alabama. So, if this is true, now, today, then I stand corrected, but I'd still have to insist that it is extremely rare on Long Island.

[andybuildz]

Originally Posted by DonnaReed

Interesting post.

I've never considered Jewish a race.

Today when folks think of Jewish, they think white, which tells a story in and of itself.

Prejudice and racism are not the same.

I have friends who are Jewish, but I'm not.

Because you've "witnessed" very little racism is not evidence that very little exist. Neither is the fact that your employees may not choose to discuss their personal racist experiences with you.

I said I lwas brought up in predominantly black neighborhood growing up as a kid...thats the racism I witnessed that was part of my life.
The predjudice I witnessed was that of antisemitism towards my family and myself.

You Said>>Because you've "witnessed" very little racism is not evidence that very little exist.<<

I'm saying-->And because one might see one or two racists in a neighborhood...that doesn't mean EVERYONE in that same neighborhood feels the same way.

And once AGAIN I will reiterate...geezzz.. I SAID that I recognize that racism DOES exist.
And who said my employee never discussed racism with me???
I've sat in his living room with Adil and his father and we HAVE discussed current affairs. His father owns one of the largest Afgani newspapers in NY. One huge subject we discussed was racism and antisemitism because I think Adil's Dad knows how well Adil and I get along...A Jew and an Afgani...says alot.
BTW..it seems impossible to discuss anything with you. You constantly are putting words in my mouth and spinning them. This discussion isn't about me...or is it?
My only point from the beginning was that we've come a long way in fifteen years.

[andybuildz]

Originally Posted by Smash255

As someone who voted for Obama in the primary that voted for Hillary in both of her Senate runs, while I can't speak for everybody I would say the majority of Obama's votes are Pro-Obama rather than Anti-Hillary.

With that being said I do wish the best for the original poster, but I don't think they will have much of a problem. No matter where you go a few ignorant bad apples here and there will have a problem with it, but as a whole I don't think they will have much of a problem here. This is Long Island not the deep south.

I have to agree with you. Personally I think Hillary is a smart and well meaning person but to me Obama is truly a uniter that is the most sincere candidate we've seen in a very long time.
Also I am one of the people that voted for Nader in the last election. I love what Nader has to say but there's no way I'm voting for him this time around. My vote for him last time was a statement. No one in their right mind ever thought he had a chance in hell of winning.
As far as how he effects the candidates? I think he'll have very little effect other than to possibly get some dialogue going that DOES need addressing.

Saw him today on Meet The Press...he's an impressive guy thats done a lot for this country!! If he steals the election from the Dems than thats pretty pathetic. Last time around Gore should have had the election sewn up by a landslide...not lost by 500 votes. No one can blame Nader for that.

The Bush administration has set his country back beyond words and IMO McCain will continue this nightmare....if the Dems can't pull it off this time with their hands tied behind their backs blinfolded and gagged than what can I tell you....whewwww.

[Kemba]

I am in an interracial relationship and wonder about it myself sometimes, but I think Long Island is pretty accepting. I lived there for 5 years during my teens, and I saw interracial couples pretty frequently.

[DonnaReed]

Originally Posted by andybuildz

I said I lwas brought up in predominantly black neighborhood growing up as a kid...thats the racism I witnessed that was part of my life.
The predjudice I witnessed was that of antisemitism towards my family and myself.

You Said>>Because you've "witnessed" very little racism is not evidence that very little exist.<<

I'm saying-->And because one might see one or two racists in a neighborhood...that doesn't mean EVERYONE in that same neighborhood feels the same way.

And once AGAIN I will reiterate...geezzz.. I SAID that I recognize that racism DOES exist.
And who said my employee never discussed racism with me???
I've sat in his living room with Adil and his father and we HAVE discussed current affairs. His father owns one of the largest Afgani newspapers in NY. One huge subject we discussed was racism and antisemitism because I think Adil's Dad knows how well Adil and I get along...A Jew and an Afgani...says alot.
BTW..it seems impossible to discuss anything with you. You constantly are putting words in my mouth and spinning them. This discussion isn't about me...or is it?
My only point from the beginning was that we've come a long way in fifteen years.

I agree that fifteen years has shown progress

yet we still have a veeeeery long way to go.

[OhBeeHave]

Originally Posted by DonnaReed

It's called "rhetorical" questioning.

To have you think.

I anticipated you thinking about what comprises racism, for example slavery.

Think about how white men benefit from slavery.

(I'm an educator; guiding folks to find their own answers rather than providing the same is ingrained in me.)

Just curious: Why should white men who weren't living in this country during the horrible slavery era, be held accountable for the actions of those who perpetuated this abomination?

You might state that there was an indirect benefit to be had, when in reality they fled countries where they were being oppressed for religious, ethnic or racial reasons. My white ancestors didn't turn their eyes in this direction with the thought, "Let's head to the USA because white men have benefits that others are not afforded." They came here for opoortunities, and they faced a hard time when they did arrive.

What about Africans who choose to immigrate to the USA? Should they be given a pass because 150 years ago Africans in this country were held as slaves? They are no different than people coming from everywhere else.

I am not trying to be nasty, I am asking these questions from the heart.

At what point in time do we collectively say, this was a terrible, disgraceful period in our history which we will never forget, but from which we need to move on?

From more recent history: My Jewish friends will never forget the Holocaust, but they no longer brand all Germans as evil.

(BTW - I am mixed race -- hispanic/caucasian)