I still do not understand housing prices on LI....it's ridiculous.... (New York: house, neighborhoods)

[scottzilla]

Originally Posted by dman72

Most of what you say is completely absurd except for the sketchy quality of newer houses. I wonder what kind of problems you're going to see down the road with these.

Late model construction is quite good. The garbage was built in the 1980's.

[BigMike50]

Originally Posted by scottzilla

Late model construction is quite good. The garbage was built in the 1980's.

True ......and so was the automobiles in the 80's

[twingles]

Originally Posted by scottzilla

How do other areas within 75 miles or so from NYC compare to LI?
Is Westchester/Yonkers/etc cheaper than LI?
Jersey?
Is LI supposed to be more affordable than these areas?

No, they aren't cheaper and the taxes are just as ridiculous....not sure how those forums compare with the complaining, though!

[Interlude]

Originally Posted by SilverBulletZ06

How deliciously biased of you today.

Bible thumpers - Yuppie/NIMBY crowd
Pat McHenry - Cynthia McCarthy
Pizza - BBQ
NASCAR - Mall?

We have the same stuff.

Lighten up Francis.

[GPC]

Originally Posted by scottzilla

Late model construction is quite good. The garbage was built in the 1980's.

Well I'm glad my house wasn't build in the 1980s then. I'm curious though - why are the 1980s infamous for 'garbage' construction?

[rocafeller05]

Dont you folks see that you are arguing with about 6 former Long Islanders that no longer live here?

Something tells me they wish they were still here. What other reason would they becoming to the LI board to talk down on it. You moved away and got what you wanted. Great.

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[scottzilla]

Originally Posted by GPC

Well I'm glad my house wasn't build in the 1980s then. I'm curious though - why are the 1980s infamous for 'garbage' construction?

I wouldn't go so far to suggest all houses built in the 80's are garbage but this timeframe represents the pinnacle of the shady contractor that has since moved to Florida, bribable building inspectors and a struggling economy that had contractors cutting corners in creative ways.
Exterior sheetrock, wood paneling, metal interior doors with metal frames, cheap shingles, cesspools instead of sewers, wells instead of "City water" and alum wiring (Early 80's on that one) & particle board kitchen cabinets.
80's era houses houses generally had plywood floors (No hardwood), single car garages (If any garage at all) and most were built on slabs (I say most-yes, many did have basements). The frost wall of a house with a basement is taller than a slab built home which resists insect (Termite) infestation.
This era was prior to better heating and cooling systems found today, engineered floor joists, 8' basements, multi car garages, hardwood floors and stricter codes.
Lastly (And this is not necessarily a result of bad construction) 80's era homes are more likely to have been owner "Upgraded" (Read: Home Depot house) than homes built in the late 90's and 2000's.
There were far less "Cookie cutter" homes built in the 2000's than the 80's, so more custom homes are available. (This last point is a bit arguable).

[skilldeadly]

The reason the prices are always going to be high is because of how close it is to NYC with more room to stretch out and better schools then the city. A lot of people are holding out to get a better price. Like my GF's family who paid around 700k but are lucky if they get 450-500k now. Pretty hard to take a huge loss like that then turn around and spend tons of money to move down South to spend more money on a house. Especially when you are past 40 when everything is pretty established.

[ClarkStreetKid]

Originally Posted by rocafeller05

Dont you folks see that you are arguing with about 6 former Long Islanders that no longer live here?

Something tells me they wish they were still here. What other reason would they becoming to the LI board to talk down on it. You moved away and got what you wanted. Great.

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Great comeback after your 10 miles for a milk run comment.

[Logical95]

Originally Posted by LIGuy2011

This analogy ALWAYS looks great on paper. Some thoughts to ponder or pitch:

Take a real hard look at those new, 2500 square foot "state of the art" houses that are being built (slapped together) in record time. Nothing like heating 2500 square feet with todays oil prices, is there...or wait, maybe your house will be equipped with a heat pump (read up on those too). And how about that 25 foot vaulted ceiling in the great room, heated with forced air. The compressed board construction. Bulk materials bought on the cheap (Chinese sheetrock anyone?). Next, ask yourself how much you think you can adapt to the new environment. Imagine having to drive 10 miles for a gallon of milk. Look on in amazement as you realize you have more teeth in your mouth than the 5 people in the local gin mill combined. Call the cops and clean your house while you wait, maybe the burglar will help you. And, how's the economy in this redneck utopia? Can you get a job anywhere besides a rock quarry, lumber mill or quick mart, without driving 200 miles on a dirt road? Even if you could, do you really think you would like to live like that? If so, then maybe it is time to leave. Life here in NY is expensive but worth it. Tax schmax, you pay it everywhere in the US. I for one, have never been one to shop for things by the price tag. If you want something, screw the price, you only live once. Make it happen Cap'n.

There's plenty of good jobs here, good schools, and anyone can find whatever it is they like to do within short driving distance. Sadly, much of my audience here consists of people who have more fun bitching about life than living it. Hence the thread.

So wait......big cities down south such as Miami, Atlanta, Charleston, Myrtle Beach, Virginia Beach, Fort Lauderdale, Savannah, etc have redneck hicks with no teeth and who are Catholic bigots??.....

I think you have to worry about that moreso in backwards areas of upstate NY than those places....and states like Alabama and Mississippi etc....not a place like Miami or Atlanta....