Long Island's changing demographics: What do you think? (Hempstead, Brookhaven: for sale, transfer)

[GCGuy]

Originally Posted by TheSeventhBrady

I assure you, I'm still laughing thinking about it this morning. And while this isle we call home certainly has its share of crap, there is still much to be proud of.

You wouldn't think so based on the people on this board, but at least there are some people who see LI for all that it is and not just the bad parts.

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[nbres]

Hey Clamboy: Rocky Point is nothing special and in fact it is not even as good as North Babylon.

Lets look at the statistics:

High School Graduation rates: Rocky Point 84%, North Babylon 89%
Household Income: Rocky Point $62,000, North Babylon $75,000
Housing Value: Rocky Point $308,000, North Babylon $381,000
Percentage College Graduates: Rocky Point 20.7%, North Babylon 21.2%

[clamboy]

Originally Posted by nbres

Hey Clamboy: Rocky Point is nothing special and in fact it is not even as good as North Babylon.

Lets look at the statistics:

High School Graduation rates: Rocky Point 84%, North Babylon 89%
Household Income: Rocky Point $62,000, North Babylon $75,000
Housing Value: Rocky Point $308,000, North Babylon $381,000
Percentage College Graduates: Rocky Point 20.7%, North Babylon 21.2%

North Shore or North Babylon........Hmmmm tough choice.

I didnt know we were comparing the two (Your issue was with ethnicity)?

As you wish....

Heres the complete net/net from Townhunter



North Babylon, NY Rocky Point, NY
School Scores
Achievement index
Normalized average of 6 other school scores.
Higher number indicates better score 51.3 67.53

Elementary ELA score
Elementary school English Language Arts average score 77 74
Elementary math score
Elementary school Math average score 78 81
Middle ELA score
Middle school English Language Arts average score 61 67
Middle math score
Middle school Math average score 57 68
High ELA score
High school English Language Arts average score 39 83
High math score
High school Math average score 63 77
School Info

Fundamentals index
Combined measure of other indexes in this group. 0 is the worst, 100 is the best. 71 66

Program expenditures per student
Amount spent annually on each student for educational programs $7886 $7312
Total expenditures per student
Total amount spent annually on each student $16909 $12524
Student to teacher ratio
Average number of students per teacher 14.6 15.9
High School Drop out rate
Percentage of students that started but did not complete high school 0 % 0 %
Program expenditures
Program expenditures for the school district $40288 K $24429 K
Total expenditures
Total expenditures for the school district $86389 K $41843 K
Teachers total
Total number of teachers in the school district 351 210
Students total
Total number of students in the school district 5109 3341


If Im reading this right it looks like youre spending quite a bit for subpar results.
Overall I'd say RP's pretty competitive for a little working class town.
Any teachers care to weigh in on this?
Fundametals and Achievent only please .....lets try keep race off the table for Nbres

Best
C

[nbres]

I checked all the regents statistics and they are comparable - no significant statistical differences between Rocky Point and North Babylon. If you look at the statistics that Newsday gives Rocky Point is on the bottom half of the chart with North Babylon. I got the other monetary numbers from City Data and the Census Bureau. I was expecting Rocky Point to be much better when
in fact it is nothing to really trumpet about - so don't be careless about calling someone else's town "crap." I didn't put up crime statistics, but according to Sperlings Places Rated Rocky Point has slightly more property crimes than North Babylon. Violent crime rates are the same.

What you have to do is boil all those numbers down and get the end product. So what really matters is how many kids are actually completing high school. And to be fair there really is not any difference between the two districts. In fact you would expect the smaller and racially homogeneous Rock Point district to do not a little better, but much better than North Babylon. Reality is is that North Babylon does better with its diverse population than would be expected.

By the way my issue was never ethnicity, but race. There is a big difference.

[clamboy]

Originally Posted by nbres

I checked all the regents statistics and they are comparable - no significant statistical differences between Rocky Point and North Babylon. If you look at the statistics that Newsday gives Rocky Point is on the bottom half of the chart with North Babylon. I got the other monetary numbers from City Data and the Census Bureau. I was expecting Rocky Point to be much better when
in fact it is nothing to really trumpet about - so don't be careless about calling someone else's town "crap." I didn't put up crime statistics, but according to Sperlings Places Rated Rocky Point has slightly more property crimes than North Babylon. Violent crime rates are the same.

What you have to do is boil all those numbers down and get the end product. So what really matters is how many kids are actually completing high school. And to be fair there really is not any difference between the two districts. In fact you would expect the smaller and racially homogeneous Rock Point district to do not a little better, but much better than North Babylon. Reality is is that North Babylon does better with its diverse population than would be expected.

By the way my issue was never ethnicity, but race. There is a big difference.

Whatever you need to tell yourself pal.



C

[Dee62]

Originally Posted by nbres
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Face it, when ever and where ever an area becomes too black everything falls apart. Can you name one place on Long Island that is now better because it is majority black? ...

Originally By NYer

Cambria Heights.

I know it is in Queens, but, still, it is really nice there. Just like when it was first built.

WhaaaaT!!! Hahahaha Are you kidding Me? Cambria! I guess it could be a very nice place to live if you put up bars and shutters over your doors and windows! And home educate your children because nobody can get an education in that neighborhoods' schools! Andrew Jackson had to change its name because no parent with sane mind would sent their child there anymore! Retarted hispanic kids from the Bronx are the only students who go there today!

[TheSeventhBrady]

Originally Posted by Dee62

Retarted hispanic kids from the Bronx are the only students who go there today!

Are they anything like remuffined kids? Or recaked or recookied?

[Noc]

Originally Posted by nbres

Clamboy.

What you have to realize is that those "poor Whites" are your buffer. Let me explain it to you this way. Do you remember the Domino Theory. Lets apply it to Long Island. When one white neighborhood falls to non-whites the next one will also fall then the next. The first piece in the set, the poor White neighborhood, is often the most vulnerable. When it goes then the contagion will spread to the next host.

Example #1: Wyandanch to the west and Brentwood to the east- then Deer Park and North Babylon - Babylon and will be isolated and picked apart. West Islip wil be out flanked on the east side by Bayshore and isolated- Checkmate.

Example #2: Brentwood and Central Islip to the north with Bayshore to the west will put pressure on the northern sections of Islip and Islip Terrace - when these areas go the rest of Islip and East Islip will be isolated - Checkmate.

Example #3: Central Islip and Islandia in the west with farmingville in the east will collapse the Ronkonkoma pocket of resistance - forming a brdge for further encroachments in every direction. Perhaps linking with northern Medford.

I don't think I need to go on - you get the point.

Just look at western Nassau to see what the game strategy is. Franklin Square is holding out and of course the bastion Garden City will resist until the end even though it now faces imminent encirclement.

The game is up. There will be no further retreats eastward - Riverhead, Coram, etc..awaits. To the west is Queens. Dare to hold out in isolated pockets of resistance will only extend the inevitable end.

I hate being the RACIST.

Fixed!!!!!

[GCGuy]

Originally Posted by TheSeventhBrady

Are they anything like remuffined kids? Or recaked or recookied?

Nice...lol.