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Old 03-29-2013, 07:55 PM
 
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Long Island was built and developed due to racism?...where did you find that gem?

Long Islands biggest point of development was right after WW2 to provide housing for returning servicemen and their families. Guess in your book they were all racists.
Levittown was whites only.
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Old 03-29-2013, 08:32 PM
 
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Unbelievably, when I was very young my Dad had to buy a summer home in Setauket in order to take his customers out on the boat because the Manhasset Bay Yacht Club was restricted and most of his customers were Jewish.
No one really could imagine that now, but even Jewish people were discriminated against in the 1950s here on Long Island.
Yeah.... now look
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Old 03-30-2013, 06:12 AM
 
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Levittown was whites only.
True but that was not just on long island in the 50s. Levitt put that in. Im sure the original buyers didnt move into levittown just because of that. They were primarily interested in getting housing.
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Old 03-30-2013, 11:08 AM
 
Location: Massapequa Park
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Ok S.I.B if you read before you spoke you would clearly notice (middle class) was the dying bread I spoke of. Please. Please. Please read. Long Island has great schools right. I would hope you went to one of them or maybe you just missed the side point, however if you think I miss spoke how do you explain these stats in this day and age. The one on the left is the West Islip school district and to the left is the state average.

White, not Hispanic 95% 51%
Hispanic or Latino 3% 21%
Asian/Pacific Islander 1% 8%
Black, not Hispanic 0% 19%
Native American or Native Alaskan 0% 0%
Well, you could find that in NYC as well. Here's one for you, how do you explain these stats in this day and age??

NEW YORK CITY GEOGRAPHIC
DISTRICT #18
~19,000 students, Brooklyn

White, not Hispanic 1% 51%
Hispanic or Latino 7% 21%
Asian/Pacific Islander 1% 8%
Black, not Hispanic 91% 19%
Native American or Native Alaskan 0% 0%

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Old 03-30-2013, 11:17 AM
 
Location: Massapequa Park
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People choose to live with people that are close to them in race, nationality, socio-economics, age, etc.

Hence why certain areas are predominantly dominated by 1 or more groups. Take Chinatown in NYC. Do people who live there choose Chinatown to avoid Harlem or Washington Heights, or more because THEY are also Asian and want to be closer to people that "understand" or relate to them? Why are certain north shore towns more dominated by Asians than say a south shore town like Massapequa or Freeport? Maybe because their social and family circles are in Flushing/Bayside/Glen Oaks and it is closer for them to see them than traveling from south shore towns. You see it on this board with threads like, "I am (insert race), will my family fit in if we buy a house in (insert town)?". People want to buy homes where neighbors share common backgrounds, interests and goals with them. Women in Hempstead will want to get their hair done by someone who knows how to tame Afro cuts in Hempstead over someone in Syosset or Garden City who may not have a clue.

It is all about choosing towns where you feel comfortable, and to that end, it means choosing towns where the majority of its residents look/act like you. Do I agree with it? No. I think diversity is a wonderful thing but the reality is that socio-economics largely dictate whether a particular neighborhood is "desirable" or not. On LI, the majority of wealthy/high income households tend to be dominated by "white" folks hence the visual disparity. Strangely enough, this isn't the case in other parts of the country (like say Alexandria VA or parts of Maryland which have extremely wealthy African American households in the suburbs that put wealthy towns here on LI to shame.) Why that is, I dont know. Time will tell.

I see this as a segregation issue, not a race issue. People are not born racist. Unfortunately, all it takes is a parent to impart that onto their kids, who internalize it at a young age and grow up with this mentality.
Great post ++. I think you and 30to66 pretty much nailed it.

I'll take a shot at the bolded in the 2nd to last paragraph...

It could be a combination of factors:

-NY is a big welfare/entitlement state
...combined with a larger income disparity (+higher median income) allows lower socio-economic classes to get hooked on, and stay on, govt welfare (unintended consequences= keeps them down instead of forcing them to break out)

-Minority dominated areas on LI are relatively much nicer than in VA/MD

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Old 03-30-2013, 01:47 PM
 
Location: Nassau, Long Island, NY
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Okay people thanks for the reasons other than racism that lead to segregation in a community. I was too far off on one track.
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Old 03-30-2013, 04:55 PM
 
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Is it really racist to move out of high crime areas?
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Old 03-30-2013, 07:18 PM
 
Location: Not where I want to be
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Is Long Island racist?

Gee, ya think?

Racist NIMBYs who try to claim they're "liberal" and "see no color" "everyone is the same". That is, until it comes to their backyard then there is a different tune being sung.... The N I M B Y anthem, loud and clear!!
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Old 03-30-2013, 10:09 PM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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Well, you could find that in NYC as well. Here's one for you, how do you explain these stats in this day and age??

NEW YORK CITY GEOGRAPHIC
DISTRICT #18
~19,000 students, Brooklyn

White, not Hispanic 1% 51%
Hispanic or Latino 7% 21%
Asian/Pacific Islander 1% 8%
Black, not Hispanic 91% 19%
Native American or Native Alaskan 0% 0%
Agreed! And while we are on the topic of certain racial groups dominating an area/region or schools - look at Stuyvesant (the #1 Public HS in NYC) where almost 65-75% of its students are Asian. Yet, Black/Hispanic enrollment is barely 25-30% each at that school. NYC doesn't have an Asian population that dwarfs blacks/Hispanics...yet...there are the numbers for Stuy...and I am sure they aren't that different for Bronx Sci or Brooklyn Tech...hmmmm
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Old 03-31-2013, 08:04 AM
 
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Well, you could find that in NYC as well. Here's one for you, how do you explain these stats in this day and age??

NEW YORK CITY GEOGRAPHIC
DISTRICT #18
~19,000 students, Brooklyn

White, not Hispanic 1% 51%
Hispanic or Latino 7% 21%
Asian/Pacific Islander 1% 8%
Black, not Hispanic 91% 19%
Native American or Native Alaskan 0% 0%
Really you're pulling up a mostly African american district to post your stats. If you have not been to Brooklyn recently take another look. A white girl in Brooklyn is safer than a black man or black woman. Please Please don't think anyone here is stupid. My comments were about areas that minorities even educated ones with well jobs do not generally move to because they may not feel welcomed, and that's blacks, Hispanics, Asians and who ever else you want to count these days.
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