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View Poll Results: Are the Police on LI over paid
yea 26 57.78%
nay 19 42.22%
Voters: 45. You may not vote on this poll

 
 
Old 09-13-2007, 07:01 AM
 
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Why do you think they aren't attracting anyone to NYPD? It's the money. The people you want to be cops simply won't take the job in NYC because the pay is too low. It's not that LI cops make too much, it's that NYC cops don't make enough. And since LI cops are forced to live (by law) in the NYC metro area, they have to be paid enough to be live here.

Your stuff is getting pretty old. How about beating another dead horse somewhere else.

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Old 09-13-2007, 08:08 AM
 
Location: Bahston
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It does seem to me that NYC police are underpaid, rather than Long Island police overpaid.

A Boston Globe article earlier this year was titled 'Police take home city's biggest paychecks'. In part, it says:

"Police in Boston were by far the city's top earners last year, with 25 Police Department employees earning more than $200,000, nearly four times the number who made that amount in 2005, according to city payroll figures released to the Globe.


The full article is here
Police take home city's biggest paychecks - The Boston Globe

In contrast, the 'average' salary for a police officer in the Boston suburb in which we live is about $65,000. Now, it does so happen that ours is one of the four most upscale, white, low-crime areas surrounding Boston. We don't have the kind of issues that exist in, for instance, Somerville -- which not only is a much different kind of area but has had its own issues with policing, in fact they recently had to do a major overhaul of the police force's contracts including putting in 2 years of retroactive pay increases. I'm not sure what the new average salaries will be in Somerville but the officers there certainly deserve considerably more than they were getting.

However, that doesn't mean that the only thing our town's police ever have to worry about is pulling people over for traffic tickets. If their average salary were the same as Boston PD's you would not hear me complaining about it.

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Old 09-13-2007, 08:22 AM
 
Location: Little Babylon
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What people have to figure out is what kind of police force that they want, what do they want it to do, how much is it worth to them as taxpayers to get it and tell their local officials.

What the police have to do is stop with the "you don't know what it's like to be a cop" comeback and instead educate civilians on what it is to be a cop and show why they should be paid a certain amount. The average civilian has little contact with the police and if they do it's usually watching him direct traffic or handing out a ticket.
 
Old 09-13-2007, 08:57 AM
 
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I think 65k would get it done on LI.


This gravy trains gotta stop.

C

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Old 09-13-2007, 09:05 AM
 
Location: Central Jersey
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They are overpaid. NYPD deals with a lot more than them, and are paid significantly less. NYPD should be paid as much or SCPD should be paid less.
Having just retired from law enforcement (30 years) I can tell you that the NYPD is underpaid. Bottom line when a union negotiates a contract and ultimately goes to an arbitor, what he takes into consideration is surrounding department salaries and the localities ability to pay.
 
Old 09-13-2007, 09:05 AM
 
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Moderator cut: personal attack.

Why do you think they aren't attracting anyone to NYPD? It's the money. The people you want to be cops simply won't take the job in NYC because the pay is too low. It's not that LI cops make too much, it's that NYC cops don't make enough. And since LI cops are forced to live (by law) in the NYC metro area, they have to be paid enough to be live here.

Your stuff is getting pretty old. How about beating another dead horse somewhere else.
Why are you atacking me....attack free market capitalism if youre P.O.'d

65k is pretty damn good for a GED these days.

Besides...you'll have that bumped past 100k with overtime and patronage.
You guys know how to work the system....hell you created it.

Nothing personal Officer....we just want to be able to live here too.

C
 
Old 09-13-2007, 10:00 AM
 
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It is what it is. Get over it. Move on. Conversation over.
 
Old 09-13-2007, 12:40 PM
 
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It is what it is. Get over it. Move on. Conversation over.
I didnt dredge this thread back up.

Youre still trying to convince us that you guys are worth the premium.

I do appreciate all that you do Officer....but I know we could do it for far less.


Peace
C
 
Old 09-13-2007, 01:16 PM
 
Location: Little Babylon
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Just linking to this paper on one persons look at Police Stress that was written by a civilian whose at the time fiance was joining the force.

Now I will say that I never noticed any bad coping behaviors or stress in my dad when he was on the job (20+ years NYPD 1960's thru the 70's). While he did have cop friends most of his socializing was done with the neighborhood dads and at the KofC hall which may be why he never got the us vs them mentality when off duty. Then again it could be because of the time he was on the job and that walking a beat for a few years rather than riding in a patrol car kept him in touch with the community and not just fellow POs.

Police Stress: Learning Through Experience, Research and Observation San Jose State University Department of Anthropology (http://209.85.165.104/search?q=cache:HF8ZRf00mmcJ:www.focusanthro.org/archive/2003-2004/Cook.pdf+police+officers+life+span+20+years+shorte r&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=10&gl=us&client=firefox-a - broken link)
 
Old 09-13-2007, 01:50 PM
 
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Having just retired from law enforcement (30 years) I can tell you that the NYPD is underpaid. Bottom line when a union negotiates a contract and ultimately goes to an arbitor, what he takes into consideration is surrounding department salaries and the localities ability to pay.
I know of village police forces who's contract calls for parity with Suffolk County. They do nothing but write parking tickets and get paid the same.
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