Are the police on Long Island overpaid? (Nassau, Jay: insurance, military)

[4StanleyCups]

Originally Posted by fopt65

Hell, EVERYTHING could be done cheaper, but would it be done right?

Negotiate down the pension and health insurance retirement benefits of all of the civil service union workers. That is the real killer on the taxpayers.

Amen to all that!

[clamboy]

Originally Posted by fopt65

Hell, EVERYTHING could be done cheaper, but would it be done right?
All lawyers could be replaced by paralegals, teachers could be replaced by assistants, cop recruits could be like NYC is getting due to their 25K starting salary (no longer disqualified due to an arrest record).
Negotiate down the pension and health insurance retirement benefits of all of the civil service union workers. That is the real killer on the taxpayers.

Yea but 97k for a GED?
Im sorry but isnt that stupid?

I bet we could get it done for 70k without comprimising a damn thing.
If they wanna hustle,they could still break 100k w /overtime.
Dont worry we wont starve 'em out.

Im talking about more value for the taxpayer and closing in on the gap with NYPD so they dont have to slum in the shadows of LI.....and guess what a safer NYC lends itself to a safer LI.

Im talking about a a few more feet on the street and about saving a few bucks.

Were gonna need all the help we can get now that Nassau is Queens and Suffolk is Nassau.


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C

[fopt65]

Clam,
I'm as frustrated a tax payer as you. However we're not paying for the GED, we're paying for someone who puts his life on the line each shift. Look at the cops with Sean Bell in NYC. They thought he had a gun, they were wrong, he's dead and their lives and the future of their families are ruined. Being a cop can be a thankless job. You see the sh*t of humanity constantly.
If you want to get mad at someone, get mad at the politicians. They are the ones taking the PBA's "donations" and getting the higher pay and benefits for the police.

[clamboy]

Originally Posted by fopt65

Clam,
I'm as frustrated a tax payer as you. However we're not paying for the GED, we're paying for someone who puts his life on the line each shift. Look at the cops with Sean Bell in NYC. They thought he had a gun, they were wrong, he's dead and their lives and the future of their families are ruined. Being a cop can be a thankless job. You see the sh*t of humanity constantly.
If you want to get mad at someone, get mad at the politicians. They are the ones taking the PBA's "donations" and getting the higher pay and benefits for the police.

Agreed...but the bucks gotta stop somewhere.

My issue isnt with the GED per se but couldnt we, shouldnt we be asking for a bit more from our community role models?

"Hey Kids if a GED is good enough for a man in blue then its good enough for you"

I dont like seeing mediocrity rewarded at the taxpayers expense...it makes me angry.
Is a traditional HS diploma too much to ask....how about an Associates?

Otherwise your argument is that any idiot in a uniform could be a cop just because they can pull a trigger.

I would think a degree in Sociology, Psychology or Criminal Justice might be a worthy endeavor.

It seems Nassau may ask for it...why not Suffolk?

Perhaps the education would help them be better diplomats than marksmen.

Just a thought

C

[baylovers]

Clam, you keep harping on the GED. Most of the cops I know have at least some college or at least 2 years military experience. The NYPD (and I believe NCPD) require at least 60 college credits or 2 years military to qualify for employment. There is a good percentage of SCPD recruits who are coming from the NYPD, therefore, they have at the college/military requirement already. I would venture a good assumption that the percentage of SCPD officers that were hired with only a GED is pretty small.

I cannot state about the current SCPD test but in the past they have been somewhat challenging. I have 21 years in law enforcement and my experience has shown that those with college degrees do not necessarily make better cops.

[NY62]

Cops need two years of college now. years ago they did not. What is wrong with ged's? At least the ones that get them can read and write. I know people with regular diplomas that cant really do either.

[clamboy]

I just thought we should expect more for our money.

I amazed by what we deem acceptable as a low water mark.

You guys hammer it out ...Im done with this thread.

C

[pdcnret]

If you actually knew what police work entails (versus what you think you know from watching tv) then you'd have a better idea of what to expect for your money. As I said before, you're in no position to judge.

Police pay is what it is. Get over it. Move on. Conversation over.

[jfkIII]

Yes, officer!

[GypsySoul22]

The police are important but I have one question--with what Suffolk County cops make WHY are they always calling me up for donations?