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Old 10-04-2011, 08:03 AM
 
Location: Inis Fada
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I haven't read the article, but can't a business operate while undergoing Bankruptcy? Didn't Delta Airlines (and Northwest) use Bankruptcy to restructure a number of years ago? Or is Friendly's beyond the point of no return? If that's the case, I better go out and stock up on Forbidden Chocolate.
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Old 10-04-2011, 11:20 AM
 
Location: Central TX
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Ahh, memories of cutting class at Sachem high and going to Friendly's for breakfast. Good times but I haven't been there in ages.
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Old 10-04-2011, 12:34 PM
 
Location: On a Long Island in NY
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I haven't read the article, but can't a business operate while undergoing Bankruptcy? Didn't Delta Airlines (and Northwest) use Bankruptcy to restructure a number of years ago? Or is Friendly's beyond the point of no return? If that's the case, I better go out and stock up on Forbidden Chocolate.
Yes, people seem to forget that there are multiple kinds of bankruptcy. Chapter 13 (liquidation) is only one form of bankruptcy and usually only happens when all measures to save the company have failed. Friendly's is going to be filing for Chapter 11 which would allow the company to try and reform it's finances, and bring in experts to assist the process to avoid having to file for Chapter 13. Their locations would continue to operate during this process. There is also something called Chapter 14 under which the corporate owned locations would close, but the franchised locations would remain open; this is what happened with Bennigan's in 2008. The situation with Borders Books was completely different then what is happening with Friendly's.

Could they completely fail and have to file for Chapter 13? Yes, but it wouldent happen for months and maybe not for a year or so. Maybe it won't even happen at all and they will be able to reform their finances and continue to serve great ice cream for years to come. It's simply too early to tell.
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Old 10-04-2011, 11:43 PM
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The Sbarro's in our local mall closed. Is that also in bankruptcy? I know that the family is from Lloyd Harbor.
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Old 10-05-2011, 08:10 AM
 
Location: Inis Fada
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Yes, people seem to forget that there are multiple kinds of bankruptcy. Chapter 13 (liquidation) is only one form of bankruptcy and usually only happens when all measures to save the company have failed. Friendly's is going to be filing for Chapter 11 which would allow the company to try and reform it's finances, and bring in experts to assist the process to avoid having to file for Chapter 13. Their locations would continue to operate during this process. There is also something called Chapter 14 under which the corporate owned locations would close, but the franchised locations would remain open; this is what happened with Bennigan's in 2008. The situation with Borders Books was completely different then what is happening with Friendly's.

Could they completely fail and have to file for Chapter 13? Yes, but it wouldent happen for months and maybe not for a year or so. Maybe it won't even happen at all and they will be able to reform their finances and continue to serve great ice cream for years to come. It's simply too early to tell.
Thank you for the explanation.

Now to go out and buy lots of Forbidden Chocolate -- just in case.
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Old 10-05-2011, 08:14 AM
 
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The Sbarro's in our local mall closed. Is that also in bankruptcy? I know that the family is from Lloyd Harbor.
A lot of mall fast food places are closing. I think there is only 2 or 3 left in the Source mall in Westbury.

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Sbarro did file for Ch 11 though, back in April.
Sbarro Files for Bankruptcy - NYTimes.com
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Old 10-05-2011, 08:15 AM
 
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Yes, people seem to forget that there are multiple kinds of bankruptcy. Chapter 13 (liquidation) is only one form of bankruptcy and usually only happens when all measures to save the company have failed. Friendly's is going to be filing for Chapter 11 which would allow the company to try and reform it's finances, and bring in experts to assist the process to avoid having to file for Chapter 13. Their locations would continue to operate during this process. There is also something called Chapter 14 under which the corporate owned locations would close, but the franchised locations would remain open; this is what happened with Bennigan's in 2008. The situation with Borders Books was completely different then what is happening with Friendly's.

Could they completely fail and have to file for Chapter 13? Yes, but it wouldent happen for months and maybe not for a year or so. Maybe it won't even happen at all and they will be able to reform their finances and continue to serve great ice cream for years to come. It's simply too early to tell.
I thought Chapter 7 was liquidation?
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Old 10-05-2011, 08:17 AM
 
Location: Inis Fada
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Is Nostalgia Enough To Save Friendly's? : NPR

NPR today.
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Old 10-05-2011, 08:18 AM
 
Location: Sound Beach
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Here is a list of the Friendly's that are closing...it looks like all the ones in NY are in the Capital District...

Glance a list of 63 Friendly’s stores closed ahead of Chapter 11 filing - The Washington Post (http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/glance-a-list-of-63-friendlys-stores-closed-ahead-of-chapter-11-filing/2011/10/05/gIQAtNlNNL_story.html - broken link)
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Old 10-05-2011, 10:39 AM
 
Location: On a Long Island in NY
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Here is a list of the Friendly's that are closing...it looks like all the ones in NY are in the Capital District...

Glance a list of 63 Friendly’s stores closed ahead of Chapter 11 filing - The Washington Post (http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/glance-a-list-of-63-friendlys-stores-closed-ahead-of-chapter-11-filing/2011/10/05/gIQAtNlNNL_story.html - broken link)
Im surprised that no Long Island/NYC locations are on that list. There has been rumors going around for years that the Bay Shore Friendly's is going to close but it hasent happened yet.
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