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Old 10-06-2011, 07:42 PM
 
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We bought a smaller house and property in a good district--why would I now want to merge with a worse district?--to save a hundred dollars a year? No...no...no. This idea is favored by people who bought mcMansions in {insert bad town name here} If i have learned anything (and its debatable if i have) it is that the further away the powers who control things are the less responsive they will be when I have a problem.
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Old 10-06-2011, 08:05 PM
 
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Having two or more independent school districts with their own separately elected school boards directing one superintendent?

What happens if one of the school boards does not go along with what the superintendent wants to implement but the other school boards do?
Re-read my idea. School boundaries remain the same. One district absorbs another administratively. One school board. Do not confuse the term 'school district" with school boundary.
The suggestion is made with the understanding that, in the rest of the country, it is quite common for one district to have several high schools, each one of which has their own boundaries. My idea was a way to get to that more efficient model. And move eventually to one District per county.
At the same time I know the usual objections to consolidation.
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Old 10-06-2011, 08:06 PM
 
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We're playing fantasy school district merger. Obstacles like this do not happen in this game .
See my reply
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Old 10-06-2011, 08:11 PM
 
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Re-read my idea. School boundaries remain the same.
In New York State, school boundaries, otherwise known as attendance zones, can be changed by a simple vote of a school board; school district boundaries, on the other hand, need to be approved by a separate vote of the residents of each of the school districts and then approved by the legislature.
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Old 10-06-2011, 08:13 PM
 
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The nuclear weapon, in this case, would be for the legislature to forcibly dissolve all existing districts and create new consolidated districts.
Or, Jericho can be given an incentive to absorb Locust Valley, Syosset to absorb Oyster Bay, Massapequa to to absorb Plainedge, etc etc with another round in eight years and the final round in 12 years. Presto, one big district in Nassau with separate high school boundaries. Of course this is imperfect...but is it that musch worse than other consolidation plans?

(This branstorm came while watching Elwood flounder around looking for a partner and all the partners they wanted did not want them and all the partners they did not want - wanted them. Suppose the high school boundaries remained the same - would that have changed the outcome?)
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Old 10-06-2011, 08:14 PM
 
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In New York State, school boundaries, otherwise known as attendance zones, can be changed by a simple vote of a school board; school district boundaries, on the other hand, need to be approved by a separate vote of the residents of each of the school districts and then approved by the legislature.
That is a speed bump to all consolidation plans...and is well recognized and has been duly noted.
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Old 10-06-2011, 08:16 PM
 
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In New York State, school boundaries, otherwise known as attendance zones, can be changed by a simple vote of a school board; school district boundaries, on the other hand, need to be approved by a separate vote of the residents of each of the school districts and then approved by the legislature.
School boundaries would be the key in overcoming parochial interests of the residents and, of course, there are legislative impediments to every plan. Duly noted.
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Old 10-06-2011, 08:17 PM
 
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Quick Commenter, you're hung up on the high school boundary issue: there are school districts on Long Island that have two or more high schools, and the attendance zones for these high schools, or, even to keep a high school open or close it, can be changed by a simple majority vote of the school board. There is no way you can freeze high school boundaries so that such changes do not occur.
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Old 10-06-2011, 08:30 PM
 
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Quick Commenter, you're hung up on the high school boundary issue: there are school districts on Long Island that have two or more high schools, and the attendance zones for these high schools, or, even to keep a high school open or close it, can be changed by a simple majority vote of the school board. There is no way you can freeze high school boundaries so that such changes do not occur.
You seem to be hung up on this. Obviously, votes by both districts' residents have to support absorbtion/consolidation. More obviously, parochial concerns run deep. Covenants, laws, and new legislative initiatives have to be brought to bear for any meaningful consolidation. It is understood a lot will have to change in order for absorbtion and/or consolidation to occur here in Nassau and Suffolk. In a sense, we are working backwards from a broken and inefficient system so there is a lot to overcome. That is understood. It is also understood that there are a small handful of districts (three, I think) here on Long Island with two or more high schools - I am not sure how that does or does not argue for consolidations of districts here on Long Island to save central administration costs.
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Old 10-06-2011, 09:38 PM
 
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Or, Jericho can be given an incentive to absorb Locust Valley, Syosset to absorb Oyster Bay,...

(This branstorm came while watching Elwood flounder around looking for a partner and all the partners they wanted did not want them and all the partners they did not want - wanted them. Suppose the high school boundaries remained the same - would that have changed the outcome?)
During your brainstorm, did you not question why Elwood was rejecting some partners and wanted in with others?

So I'm going to assume you are in Oyster Bay and want to merge with Syosset? Alright, how about Oyster Bay merges with Westbury SD instead?

I'm sure Babylon is dying to save $20 to merge with Wyandanch and Amityville as well. Either way whatever is saved will go to increasing teacher/admin salaries.

The only way to lower taxes without affecting quality is to increase contributions toward benefits or freeze pay increases.
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