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Old 10-05-2011, 07:04 PM
 
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Would you agree on merging Long Island Schoold Districts? Assuming that the level would stay the same and your property taxes would be lower.
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Old 10-05-2011, 07:23 PM
 
Location: On a Long Island in NY
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Would you agree on merging Long Island Schoold Districts? Assuming that the level would stay the same and your property taxes would be lower.
Yes, but on the town level as was proposed in an article in today's Newsday.

If I had my way I would abolish all county government entities and agencies in Nassau & Suffolk except the community colleges, the health departments, and the sheriff's offices.
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Old 10-05-2011, 07:33 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Would you agree on merging Long Island Schoold Districts? Assuming that the level would stay the same and your property taxes would be lower.

It would not change your tax bill to a large extent but they should still be consolidated, keeping superintendents and staffs for each school district is extremely inefficient. 200+ districts on Long Island make no financial sense.
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Old 10-05-2011, 07:53 PM
 
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Q1: How would you handle the school districts that are in more than one town, let alone the 3 school districts (the Cold Spring Harbor Central School District, the Farmingdale Union Free School District and the Amityville Union Free School District) that are in more than one county?

Q2: Also, what about “leveling up”? When combining two or more districts that have differing contracts with their respective unions, the unions adamantly argue for a leveling up to the highest wages and pensions paid in any of the districts.
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Old 10-05-2011, 07:54 PM
 
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200+ districts on Long Island make no financial sense.
It's more like 115+ districts.
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Old 10-05-2011, 08:06 PM
 
Location: Massapequa Park
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According to that article, we will not save anything by doing this. Cost will actually go UP! http://mobile.newsday.com/inf/infomo...ed:i=1.3222783

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Overall, initial annual savings for that area would equal about six-tenths of 1 percent of the districts' total budgets, Cantor said. While that saving might seem slight, Cantor said it represents a significant portion of the annual 2 percent increases in taxes to which districts will be restricted under the statewide cap that takes effect in July.

But those officials also warn that mergers actually might boost costs in the short term, as employee unions in districts with relatively low pay scales scramble to "level up" with higher-paid colleagues elsewhere.
No thanks.
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Old 10-05-2011, 08:29 PM
 
Location: Former LI'er Now a Rehoboth Beach Bunny
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In addition to the previously mentioned "obstacles", how does a district that is carrying little to no debt explain to its' residents that now they are going to help the more heavily indebted districts by "sharing the burden". That will fly when pigs do.
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Old 10-05-2011, 08:36 PM
 
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In addition to the previously mentioned "obstacles", how does a district that is carrying little to no debt explain to its' residents that now they are going to help the more heavily indebted districts by "sharing the burden". That will fly when pigs do.:D
When that occurs, past practice is that the part of the new district that had more debt has a higher property tax rate until that debt is paid off.
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Old 10-06-2011, 04:14 AM
 
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As a first step, larger districts should absorb smaller districts if and where possible. Teacher pay and debt issues are red herrings. Central Office Admiinstrative reduction is the goal of the first step. All elementary, middle and high schools and their respective teachers, staff, and local school boundaries remain. No construction costs. No increased bussing costs. Again, as a first step cut the central office staffing (superintendent, assistant superintendents, directors, repsective stafs, etc) by 'combining' two or three districts.
Afrer saving hundreds of millions by doing this, we can look to greater consolidations. This first step minmizes disruption, keeps 'neighborhood schools', has no construction costs, etc etc. When we try too much at once nothing happens. Cut the enormous central office staff and costs - the first step.
Down the road we can debate county-wide school districts.
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Old 10-06-2011, 06:33 AM
 
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All elementary, middle and high schools and their respective teachers, staff, and local school boundaries remain.
Aside from the financial issues, such as leveling up, after consolidation, attendance zones within the newly formed, larger district, can be changed by a simple, majority vote of the new school board.
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