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Unread 10-19-2011, 10:02 AM
 
Location: Massapequa Park
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It's unfortunate generalizing on everyone who has section 8. Sure there's some troublemakers but a few of my friends are in it and they arent thugs.
The illegal apartments and the illegals are the main problem. Around Port Jeff I see houses with many cars, often with out of state plates parked at them.
This is often right around the LIRR. If the towns shut down the illegal apartments and enforced housing code crime would sharply drop. But they are paid off by those that hire illegals to keep them here for the cheap labor. Look at the gangs that have a presence in Port Jeff, all from south of the border!
Just who in PJV is getting paid off by the rich people in Belle Terre, or even Miller Place? As those areas got wealthier Port Jeff declined, as the wealthy needed someplace to dump their cheap illegal workers.
It works out good though. The folks in Belle Terre and MP can use their sheds for storage instead of harboring a few shackled slaves, no?

No more worrying about room & board or having to shoot Pepé when he tries to escape. Simply send them to PJ.
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Unread 10-19-2011, 07:17 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Johninwestbury View Post
It's unfortunate generalizing on everyone who has section 8. Sure there's some troublemakers but a few of my friends are in it and they arent thugs.
The illegal apartments and the illegals are the main problem. Around Port Jeff I see houses with many cars, often with out of state plates parked at them.
This is often right around the LIRR. If the towns shut down the illegal apartments and enforced housing code crime would sharply drop. But they are paid off by those that hire illegals to keep them here for the cheap labor. Look at the gangs that have a presence in Port Jeff, all from south of the border!
Just who in PJV is getting paid off by the rich people in Belle Terre, or even Miller Place? As those areas got wealthier Port Jeff declined, as the wealthy needed someplace to dump their cheap illegal workers.

Totally agree.

Miller Place's gains have definitely been at PJ's loss. I remember when MP was working class and Port Jeff was upscale. The years have been most unkind.

There is no doubt in my mind that the PJV is completely bought.
It takes a special kind of evil greed to ruin a town so terrific.

Theyve been dumping the trash in the Comsewogue side of the Village for years.
I guess they forgot that poop flows downhill.

Crooks
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Unread 10-19-2011, 10:19 PM
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Location: Inis Fada
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Originally Posted by Johninwestbury View Post
It's unfortunate generalizing on everyone who has section 8. Sure there's some troublemakers but a few of my friends are in it and they arent thugs.
The illegal apartments and the illegals are the main problem. Around Port Jeff I see houses with many cars, often with out of state plates parked at them.
This is often right around the LIRR. If the towns shut down the illegal apartments and enforced housing code crime would sharply drop. But they are paid off by those that hire illegals to keep them here for the cheap labor. Look at the gangs that have a presence in Port Jeff, all from south of the border!
Just who in PJV is getting paid off by the rich people in Belle Terre, or even Miller Place? As those areas got wealthier Port Jeff declined, as the wealthy needed someplace to dump their cheap illegal workers.
If you look at the size of the population in Belle Terre and compare it to the size of the 'Hispanics of questionable immigration status' population in upper PJV, it would appear that there is probably 2 Hispanics for each resident of BT.

Population on Long Island, 2010 Census

IMHO, it is not so much who is getting paid off, rather PJV condoning the illegal rentals in upper PJV to keep the problem away from lower PJV without coming across as being racist, xenophobic, anti-Hispanic, etc.

Personally, I feel upper Port's problems started when the different shelters and ministries opened up by the LIRR. The area started to slip, rents came down in price, crimes and vagrancy increased -- the QOL when to shambles. Enter the earliest of immigrants -- legal or illegal -- spreading the word to their amigos.
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Unread 10-19-2011, 10:38 PM
 
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Take a look at this building can't they bulldoze these?
What Do You Want to See Here? [Empty in Port Jefferson] - Port Jefferson, NY Patch
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Originally Posted by Johninwestbury View Post
It's unfortunate generalizing on everyone who has section 8. Sure there's some troublemakers but a few of my friends are in it and they arent thugs.
The illegal apartments and the illegals are the main problem. Around Port Jeff I see houses with many cars, often with out of state plates parked at them.
This is often right around the LIRR. If the towns shut down the illegal apartments and enforced housing code crime would sharply drop. But they are paid off by those that hire illegals to keep them here for the cheap labor. Look at the gangs that have a presence in Port Jeff, all from south of the border!
Just who in PJV is getting paid off by the rich people in Belle Terre, or even Miller Place? As those areas got wealthier Port Jeff declined, as the wealthy needed someplace to dump their cheap illegal workers.
It seems as though gang activity began around 2008 and even earlier in Upper port.
http://www.northshoreoflongisland.co...y=71424.112114

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Unread 10-20-2011, 11:14 PM
 
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I live in the area. The Comsewogue schools are crappy and I hear the cops are at the high school everyday for supposed gang related fighting. It gets worse everyday!

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Unread 10-22-2011, 03:48 PM
 
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If you look at the size of the population in Belle Terre and compare it to the size of the 'Hispanics of questionable immigration status' population in upper PJV, it would appear that there is probably 2 Hispanics for each resident of BT.

Population on Long Island, 2010 Census

IMHO, it is not so much who is getting paid off, rather PJV condoning the illegal rentals in upper PJV to keep the problem away from lower PJV without coming across as being racist, xenophobic, anti-Hispanic, etc.

Personally, I feel upper Port's problems started when the different shelters and ministries opened up by the LIRR. The area started to slip, rents came down in price, crimes and vagrancy increased -- the QOL when to shambles. Enter the earliest of immigrants -- legal or illegal -- spreading the word to their amigos.
The vagrancy increased because of the homeless shelter or were there always homeless in the area?

SBU REPORTS: Pax Christi Homeless Shelter - YouTube
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Unread 10-27-2011, 08:25 PM
 
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A Coram man who started his night threatening someone with a gun in Port Jefferson village, punched a nurse in the Emergency Room at Mather Hospital after resisting arrest, according to police. There was also an incident of gunfire in PJS. I hate how Port Jeff has become, the crime there is ridiculous.
Man in Port Jeff, Waives Gun, Resists Arrest Then Punches Nurse - Port Jefferson, NY Patch
Drunk backseat driving
Jawbreakers in the new millennium
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