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Old 11-02-2011, 11:20 PM
 
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The loss of one's pension is punishment enough.
You're kidding , right ?

You don't think he should do time ?

You don't think , as someone suggested , he should be listed as a sex offender ?
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Old 11-02-2011, 11:25 PM
 
Location: southern california
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yeah he got caught. when we subcontract police, fire, teachers and social workers, the public will be more pleased?
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Old 11-03-2011, 12:54 AM
 
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You're kidding , right ?

You don't think he should do time ?

You don't think , as someone suggested , he should be listed as a sex offender ?
Not at all. He plead guilty to Official Misconduct; not to anything else, so he shouldn't have to register. Moreover, he is all but unemployable anywhere, and short of changing his "unique" last name, it'll follow him for awhile. It *is* also possible that the sex charges might not be quite what both the DA & the media present... Irrespective; such actions cannot be tolerated, and the Police are better for removing him permanently from their ranks.
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Old 11-03-2011, 07:14 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Just curious why he would lose his conviction since normally that is no the case, even the Roslyn Superintenedent, so does that mean the cop who drew his gun on the bartender may also lose his pension. I can only assume that is part of the contract particular to NCPD.

Since the NCPD qualification is primarily test scores why so many NYPD?

Meant to say "lose his pension"
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Old 11-03-2011, 07:31 AM
 
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yeah he got caught. when we subcontract police, fire, teachers and social workers, the public will be more pleased?

No, the public will be more pleased when idiotic meatheads like Garrett Mannerz aren't getting paid 156K (in salary alone, that doesn't count his free pension and free medical) under the misconception that paying salaries like this provides a better police force. His true comp for 2011 would have been more like 200K if you factor in everything else. The information is right there on seethroughny.org.

It turns out you get the same guys you get anywhere else. You really think that if he only maxed out at 80K he wouldn't have taken the job?

You think he had a lot of other things lined up, perhaps some international mergers or maybe an innovative medical device he was working on? I mean, these guys all have degrees, at least some cop on here told me that.

What Newsday really needs to to is to run a story on what the true cost of Nassau and Suffolk PD's are to every household in the counties. The true cost is hidden because they are only partially visible on your property taxes. If you factor in sales taxes and the county portion of property taxe, every household in both counties is paying nearly as much for police protection as they are for schools..and how many fewer heads and hours are there in comparison?

And we're doing this not because you get better service, because these guys have been given lottery tickets.
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Old 11-03-2011, 08:31 AM
 
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Dman the 7% you pay in taxes pays for every police,sheriff, and corrections officers salary,benefits, pension and all police functions.

72% of my tax bill goes to the bloated school system.
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Old 11-03-2011, 08:44 AM
 
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Dman the 7% you pay in taxes pays for every police,sheriff, and corrections officers salary,benefits, pension and all police functions.

72% of my PROPERTY tax bill goes to the bloated school system.
Edited the last line to clarify it.

As for the first line, it is factually incorrect.

If you look at the county tax budget for "public safety" in Suffolk County, it is 23% That total number is not only funded by the 10% I and my company pay directly towards police on our property taxes, it is also funded by: the county portion of property taxes, county fees, and the county portion of sales tax.

The big lie the PBA keeps trying to sell is that the police are a bargain because they are only costing you what you see on your property tax bill.

They know this is a lie and the fact they keep trying to sell it shows how dishonest they are.

That aside, that mythical 7% could be reduced by 30% simply by getting police compensation in line with reality. You could still pay cops 90K a year and give them a 401K match or something..and peope would still be lining up to take the test. You'd have the same guys doing the same job, it just wouldn't cost so much.
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Old 11-03-2011, 11:18 AM
 
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" But Mannerz's lawyer and Nassau Police Benevolent Association president James Carver said he is vested and can apply to receive pension payments when he turns 55. "

So much for minimal knowledge of the workings of the police department.
Sorry, Sparky, but despite what the lawyer and union president say, the fact that his conviction involves his official duties means that his pension is in jeopardy.
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Old 11-03-2011, 11:27 AM
 
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Anyone with even minimal knowledge of the workings of the police department know that statement is an absolute lie.
I'm sorry. You must be another of those posters with intimate knowledge of what cops do, how they do it , and more importantly, what they think -- because your brother-in-law's friend's sister's husband once knew a cop in Texas. Yeah.
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Old 11-03-2011, 11:50 AM
 
Location: Massapequa Park
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Mannerz, 2011 $156,049
Mannerz, 2010 $116,635
Mannerz, 2009 $ 91,017

He's vested.

#sharedsacrifice
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