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Old 11-16-2011, 03:11 PM
 
Location: Nassau, Long Island, NY
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... further adding to its budget woes.

From Newsday Mobile for all to read:

Caregiver charged with choking 6-year-old
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A late October confrontation between a caregiver at Nassau University Medical Center and a 6-year-old led to the caregiver's arrest on assault charges Tuesday, police said.
***sigh***

Where do they get these people?
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Old 11-16-2011, 03:16 PM
 
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[URL="http://nassaucountynewsnetwork.wordpress.com/2011/10/13/privatization-of-inmate-health-services-housing-of-non-nassau-inmates-helps-keep-costs-down-at-jail/"]PRIVATIZATION OF INMATE HEALTH SERVICES & HOUSING OF NON-NASSAU INMATES HELPS KEEP COSTS DOWN AT JAIL |[/URL]

I thought privatization would save on the jail budget by $5.1 Million? So I'm assuming NUMC is losing this business?
And when there is no business, what happens?

Layoffs.

Why some people on this thread are complaining because they might just happen to wind up at NUMC after they, themselves, screamed bloody murder for privatization at the jail is beyond me. I guess they didn't see how it's all intertwined, even though they'd been warned. Oops!

Also, what OBH said touched upon a truth. These layoffs are coming from privatization at NUMC, too. This all comes back to the desire to get CSEA out of there. You know, that pesky union.

So, now you're getting union workers out of there, and 175 positions are being eliminated.

What's that someone said about patient care there?

Rock on.

BTW, it took Armor--no "u" in the name like Mangano's own flacks can't seem to get straight--just 11 days to, ah, be present for a fatality at the jail. Something about an inmate with chest pains getting Mylanta. (Oops!) Then there was the quadrupled dose of nitro to an inmate with high blood pressure. (Oops!) Then two of their nurses got into a fistfight. (Ah, the pressure of working in a jail!)

And that was just in the first month Armor had the contract, way back in May/June. I could go on, but I won't. Suffice it to say that you will pay, one way or the other, no matter how Mangano spins it.

Just remember: If you can breathe when they put you in the ambulance, whisper the word "Winthrop."

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Old 11-16-2011, 03:28 PM
 
Location: Nassau, Long Island, NY
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"Some people" KNOW they won't end up in Nassau County Correctional Facility. You have to be a criminal first to "patronize" this facility and become a guest of the County. How is that "intertwined" with needing medical help at NUMC? "Some people" also know that with the HORRENDOUS track record of the way this jail operates, it boggles the imagination that privitization could make it worse. I would see a reasonable defense against privitization if they had a good track record instead of the horrendous one they actually do have. All they have is a public sector union, which does not make the personnel and the supervision competent, as has been proven by their performance for DECADES UPON DECADES. I don't know anyone who is intelligent and in his/her right mind who would defend the NCCF against privitization because the facts of the matter DO NOT SUPPORT the current way the jail is run. Just more lawsuits for the taxpayers to pay -- more inmates and more staff getting hurt. But they can get pensions even if they end up on the other side of the bars -- YAY! That's the only thing that matters to "some OTHER people."
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Old 11-16-2011, 04:00 PM
 
Location: Nassau, Long Island, NY
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And when there is no business, what happens?

Layoffs.

Why some people on this thread are complaining because they might just happen to wind up at NUMC after they, themselves, screamed bloody murder for privatization at the jail is beyond me. I guess they didn't see how it's all intertwined, even though they'd been warned. Oops!

Also, what OBH said touched upon a truth. These layoffs are coming from privatization at NUMC, too. This all comes back to the desire to get CSEA out of there. You know, that pesky union.

So, now you're getting union workers out of there, and 175 positions are being eliminated.

What's that someone said about patient care there?

Rock on.

BTW, it took Armor--no "u" in the name like Mangano's own flacks can't seem to get straight--just 11 days to, ah, be present for a fatality at the jail. Something about an inmate with chest pains getting Mylanta. (Oops!) Then there was the quadrupled dose of nitro to an inmate with high blood pressure. (Oops!) Then two of their nurses got into a fistfight. (Ah, the pressure of working in a jail!)

And that was just in the first month Armor had the contract, way back in May/June. I could go on, but I won't. Suffice it to say that you will pay, one way or the other, no matter how Mangano spins it.

Just remember: If you can breathe when they put you in the ambulance, whisper the word "Winthrop."
#1: Can anyone honestly say that NUMC was better when it was all "union?" The person I know who was recently in there had excellent care. She would be dead if it wasn't for them. Honestly. They saved her life. And the care she received was so good as per her specialist (who is also a friend of the family) she is suffering barely any side effects compared to how some people end up who get hurt like she did. For the things NUMC specializes in, they are actually extremely good.

#2: Better hope you don't need a hyperbaric chamber or other specialized care NUMC has that Winthrop doesn't or your whisper will lead to your own demise.

#3: Yes, it is a tradition in the USA of (taxpayers) paying one way or the other, no matter which one spins it.
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Old 11-16-2011, 04:57 PM
 
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I know a lot of cops and could only find 1 on the list Pequaman posted, I gotta start hanging out with a better class of cops, sorry guys I'm ditching you.
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Old 11-16-2011, 05:21 PM
 
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I know a lot of cops and could only find 1 on the list Pequaman posted, I gotta start hanging out with a better class of cops, sorry guys I'm ditching you.
If they paid 75k per year ( which I think is fair), not counting OT, you would STILL have the same amount of candidates applying!
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Old 11-16-2011, 09:41 PM
 
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"Some people" KNOW they won't end up in Nassau County Correctional Facility.
Who's talking about going to jail?

I was talking about this:

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Sometimes "we" (the insured) end up in that hospital INVOLUNTARILY.

I know someone taken there by ambulance (from a different hospital in Nassau that lacked what NUMC has) who had to spend several weeks there in recovery. She was "out of it" when being transferred and could not protest ("Oh noes! Don't take me to NUMC!") if she wanted to. She had the best insurance going. None of her doctors had privileges there, so she could not be seen by her own doctors but only by the specialists at the hospital. She survived and is doing better than ever.

It just happens that there are a few things that hospital has that many others in Nassau doesn't like a first-class burn unit, hyperbaric chamber, a very experienced trauma center, and a helicopter pad.

I think it would be better to keep that hospital solvent unless the others in Nassau are going to suddenly get an influx of money (and the desire) to build what NUMC has that they don't.
But feel free to misunderstand and then waste your time jumping into deep end from that misunderstanding whenever you like.
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Old 11-17-2011, 10:42 AM
 
Location: Nassau, Long Island, NY
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But feel free to misunderstand and then waste your time jumping into deep end from that misunderstanding whenever you like.
Will do.
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Old 11-17-2011, 01:30 PM
 
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Hospitals all around LI are going through big layoffs, hiring freezes, and contract changes. But don't worry, our police and teachers will get their 5-8% bonus'.

Hospitals I know of:
Brookhaven
Stony Brook
St. Catherine
St. Charles
Mather
South Side
Good Samaritan


Stony Brooks, state run, just screwed its workers with the current contracts. While the rest of the public employees of the area are going to get their raises for the next 5 years, NY is giving 0% 0% 0% 2% 2% on the next contract, plus the workers will need to pay more into their health care costs. If only we could get the same thing from the SCPD and the Districts maybe we'd have taxes people could afford.
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Old 11-17-2011, 01:49 PM
 
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Hospitals all around LI are going through big layoffs, hiring freezes, and contract changes. But don't worry, our police and teachers will get their 5-8% bonus'.

Hospitals I know of:
Brookhaven
Stony Brook
St. Catherine
St. Charles
Mather
South Side
Good Samaritan


Stony Brooks, state run, just screwed its workers with the current contracts. While the rest of the public employees of the area are going to get their raises for the next 5 years, NY is giving 0% 0% 0% 2% 2% on the next contract, plus the workers will need to pay more into their health care costs. If only we could get the same thing from the SCPD and the Districts maybe we'd have taxes people could afford.
I'd avoid Brookhaven as much as possible. Too many scandals with Medicare fraud. Personal experience with St. Charles and Mather left me unimpressed. I'm assuming Southside would improve after its acquisition by LIJ, but I could be wrong. I don't know much about Stony Brook or St. Catherine, although Stony Brook can be a PITA for scheduling surgery.

Good Sam, though, that bothers me. Those folks give excellent care, and their nurses are top-notch.

Would you be so kind as to post a source for your information?
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