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Old 02-12-2016, 01:22 PM
 
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"Home for wayward girls"? I remember that guy seemed wacky. He was probably in cahoots with the guy who hired Shannan Gilbert which is why he didn't help her when she went screaming from the guy's house saying someone was trying to kill her. These two plus Shannan's driver who left her there were probably all involved.
Then add in SCPD brass to the equation.
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Old 02-12-2016, 01:39 PM
 
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1. She was a known junkie. As such, she may have been under the influence and in a state of delirium, ran off into the marshland thinking she was in danger. Maybe she was with her John or her "friend"/bodyguard and misinterpreted something they said or did and ran off.
The body guard, whom she had used routinely for "back up" and thus knew him even returned again to pick her up, but she refused to get in his car and took off running. He then decided that with the increasing attention, discretion was the better option and left.

I cant really see the upper middle aged sex customer or the neighborhood wierdo (aged 60) chasing her down in a marsh and killing her. My guess is that you are right. She was in a drug delirium, then passed out and died of exposure. Poor girl.

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Old 02-13-2016, 06:58 AM
 
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Then add in SCPD brass to the equation.
I read in today's Newsday that the police won't release Shannan Gilbert's 911 call where she said someone was trying to kill her, not even to the family. There could be incriminating evidence on the call if she named names. Her story is so weird it could be made into a horror movie. Escort goes to a customer and finds out they plan to kill her, she escapes, calls police and goes to a neighbor and they are all part of some sick conspiracy which includes her driver. They catch her and kill her, police then cover it up and say she died of exposure. I would think that scenario is implausible at first but who knows.
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Old 02-15-2016, 02:54 PM
 
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Here's a recent story and summary on the case. In her 911 call she supposedly said "they" were trying to kill her. I still think the guy who hired her, her driver, and some of the odd neighbors are the most likely suspects but her death isn't even officially a homicide. It's some interesting reading.

Inside the Bizarre, Unsolved Case of the Long Island Serial Killer | VICE | United States
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Old 02-22-2016, 06:11 PM
 
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yes it was a police cover up, and its obvious by now james Burke is your long island serial killer..from wire tapping federal agents and arresting detectives...this will be made into a movie...maybe it was him who shoved the rocks into that kids mouth back in the 1970s and some kids from his school

http://www.vice.com/read/ghosts-of-s...-serial-killer

"I have a tremendous respect for homicide detectives," he insists from his warm, book-lined office in Port Jefferson. "But after putting over 750 hours of work into this case, I can see that the police have been deliberate in covering it up."


http://nypost.com/2015/12/12/busted-...beach-murders/

Burke never wanted us involved in this [serial killer] case because he knew we were *investigating him,” said a federal source

www.nytimes.com/2016/01/04/nyregion/ex-suffolk-county-police-chiefs-arrest-hints-at-broader-federal-inquiry.html?_r=0

The United States attorney’s office in Brooklyn, which is overseeing the investigation, has also taken a dim view of some of the surveillance practices employed by the Suffolk County district attorney’s office.
One questionable episode involved a Suffolk County wiretap in which the district attorney’s office listened in on phone calls involving at least a half-dozen F.B.I. agents and assistant United States attorneys, according to three people who have been told about the event. In another episode, a contractor for the district attorney’s office installed a GPS device on a deputy police commissioner’s car at Mr. Burke’s request, in order “to dig up blackmail dirt on her,” a federal prosecutor, James Miskiewicz, said last month in a federal court hearing shortly after Mr. Burke was arrested.
Mr. Spota has denied any knowledge of the episode involving the tracking device. Mr. Miskiewicz called the event “something out of the K.G.B.”

High on the enemies list, apparently, was the F.B.I. Mr. Burke pulled most of his detectives off federal task forces in 2012, an order that came through while one of those being recalled was in the middle of taking a murder confession. Back with their old squads, the detectives found themselves out of favor. One, a respected gang investigator, John Oliva, came under suspicion of leaking information to a Newsday reporter. In an extreme step, the district attorney’s office began to wiretap Detective Oliva, two former law enforcement officials said.
The wiretap intercepted countless conversations in which the detective spoke with F.B.I. agents and prosecutors about some of the investigations he had been pulled from. Required to provide notification, Mr. Spota’s top prosecutors went to the United States attorney in Brooklyn, Loretta E. Lynch, who is now the United States attorney general, to explain that they had overheard Justice Department officials talking.
The conversation went poorly, according to three people who have heard about it from Justice Department officials. These people said the county prosecutors had been unapologetic, even as it emerged that they had listened in on conversations that had little to do with the leak investigation. Moreover, the prosecutors appeared to have failed to shut down the wiretap during conversations that had nothing to do with any suspected criminal activity, as is typically required.

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Old 01-04-2017, 11:23 AM
 
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I believe SG was killed by Dr. Hackett and company.
Why would he call MG from a NJ location? ,Just like, the person who called Melissa sister, Amanda and possibly called other family members.
Steve Cullen, the tattoo artist said"
a woman called him 3 years ago and wanted a tattoo for her grandson to remember his mother, Jane Doe #3."
Clearly, this was probably the Lisk,pretending or had a friend make the call to throw of Suffolk Police.

By the way, Jane Doe#3 and the baby are West Indian descent, based on their jewelry.
Their killing may be domestic violence.
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Old 01-04-2017, 11:29 AM
 
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I wouldn't be shocked if the killer posted here. They do weird stuff like that.
You watch some of these crime shows on tv and you arggghhhh.....
Agree!
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Old 01-04-2017, 01:14 PM
 
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Hey, wasn't me.
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Old 01-04-2017, 07:21 PM
 
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Isn't it something since Burke is in jail there have been no more murders at giglo beach.

Hmmm
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Old 01-04-2017, 08:06 PM
 
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Isn't it something since Burke is in jail there have been no more murders at giglo beach.

Hmmm
This is really stupid. You make it sound like there was a weekly murder occurring there. You know that some of the bodies found were over a decade old, right?
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