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Old 12-05-2011, 01:37 PM
 
Location: Massapequa Park
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What you also need to consider is that although Bayside is a nice area, it's still part of the NYC Department of Education, which means that you would have to deal with middle and high school application process which is tedious and bureaucracy-ridden in addition to the fact that kids have to get high grades on specialized exams to get in. So, moving to a town in Long Island with a strong school system alleviates this problem because once you are a town resident, you attend town schools without an additional headache.
That's what I like about Long Island schools, they're set in stone so there's no surprises later on down the road. I don't get how people want to consolidate LI into county-wide districts. What a disaster that would be. The school district IS the community in most cases. Although Bayside and Cardozo do not look too bad on paper, even above average schools easily trump them on LI. I wouldn't want to deal with the dysfunctional NYCDOE and the City income tax.

OP, I would consider the south shore for that price range. GN is nice but what can you find there for $600k? Check out Rockville Centre and the south shore towns on the babylon LIRR line (Merrick to Massapequa/Park)... Way more bang for your buck.
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Old 12-05-2011, 03:06 PM
 
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I haven't checked out Rockville before, but quickly scanning the houses for sale, they seem like bigger houses than Bayside and GN. The couple that I checked seem to be around 10k in property tax.

Haven't checked out Port Washington yet. Will take a look at that also.
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Old 12-05-2011, 03:18 PM
 
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I haven't checked out Rockville before, but quickly scanning the houses for sale, they seem like bigger houses than Bayside and GN. The couple that I checked seem to be around 10k in property tax.
Be aware that there are places that have a "Rockville Centre, NY 11570" mailing address that are not in the Village of Rockville Centre are in the Hamlet of South Hempstead, the Hamlet of Baldwin, the Hamlet of Oceanside, the Village of Lynbrook and the Hamlet of Lakeview.


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Haven't checked out Port Washington yet. Will take a look at that also.
Be aware that Port Washington is one of those many villages and hamlets on Long Island where the majority of the places with the community name as part of their mailing address (6,652 acres) are not in the community (2,732 acres):

Places that have a "Port Washington, NY 11050" mailing address that are not in the Hamlet of Port Washington are in the Village of Sands Point, the Village of Port Washington North, the Village of Manorhaven, the Village of Baxter Estates and the Village of Flower Hill.
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Old 12-05-2011, 03:58 PM
 
Location: Nassau, Long Island, NY
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I haven't checked out Rockville before, but quickly scanning the houses for sale, they seem like bigger houses than Bayside and GN. The couple that I checked seem to be around 10k in property tax.

Haven't checked out Port Washington yet. Will take a look at that also.
That seems low for a big house in Rockville Centre. Rockville Centre also has a Village property tax on top of the County/School District property taxes. Some realtors do not list the Village property taxes in the "total property taxes" section. Village property taxes in Rockville Centre for a house costing $600-$700K can be anywhere from $2,000 to $5,000 in addition to the other property taxes.
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Old 12-05-2011, 06:29 PM
 
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What you also need to consider is that although Bayside is a nice area, it's still part of the NYC Department of Education, which means that you would have to deal with middle and high school application process which is tedious and bureaucracy-ridden in addition to the fact that kids have to get high grades on specialized exams to get in. So, moving to a town in Long Island with a strong school system alleviates this problem because once you are a town resident, you attend town schools without an additional headache.
I think I already said that in an earlier post.
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Old 12-08-2011, 10:10 AM
 
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How's the traffic in Port Washington, Valley Stream, or Rockville Centre in the morning to LIRR? It seems it takes an average of 10minutes, depending on the location of the house, but it doesn't take into account traffic. Also, do you need a permit to park at these LIRR locations? How much?
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Old 12-08-2011, 11:11 AM
 
Location: Nassau, Long Island, NY
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How's the traffic in Port Washington, Valley Stream, or Rockville Centre in the morning to LIRR? It seems it takes an average of 10minutes, depending on the location of the house, but it doesn't take into account traffic. Also, do you need a permit to park at these LIRR locations? How much?
In Valley Stream there is no significant traffic to worry about when going to any of the 3 LIRR stations (Valley Stream, Gibson, Westwood).

Here is the parking permit cost info for the Village of Valley Stream. The parking decals are good for ALL municipal parking lots (shopping, parks, pool, etc.), including LIRR:

Residents: $40 for two years
Non-Residents: $425 for one year

The LIRR station named Valley Stream also has metered parking available.
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Old 12-08-2011, 11:29 AM
 
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That's what I like about Long Island schools, they're set in stone so there's no surprises later on down the road. I don't get how people want to consolidate LI into county-wide districts. What a disaster that would be. The school district IS the community in most cases. Although Bayside and Cardozo do not look too bad on paper, even above average schools easily trump them on LI. I wouldn't want to deal with the dysfunctional NYCDOE and the City income tax.
I think the idea is to consolidate administration, not districts. One of the conclusions of that article comparing LI to Reston, VA was that LI has many layers of duplicative administration which are a callback to when it was a series of small rural communities. Even if we did it at a town level, it's more efficient to have one school superintendent and staff, one water district, one sewer district, one fire department, etc., than dozens, all drawing paychecks. You would keep districts and buildings, just adminstrate them differently from the top down.
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Old 12-08-2011, 11:33 AM
 
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Under current NYS law, it is impossible to consolidate administrations but not districts.
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Old 12-08-2011, 01:24 PM
 
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How's the traffic in Port Washington, Valley Stream, or Rockville Centre in the morning to LIRR? It seems it takes an average of 10minutes, depending on the location of the house, but it doesn't take into account traffic. Also, do you need a permit to park at these LIRR locations? How much?
I don't drive to the LIRR. I have a 6 minute walk to the LIRR so I don't know the details but straight from the Town of North Hempstead website:

Town of North Hempstead - Applications

FEES: Parking Permit 6/1/11 to 5/31/12: $15.00
In addition to the parking permit a voucher is also required
Daily Voucher: $1.00
Book of Vouchers (10): $10.00
Monthly Voucher: $20.00
Yearly Voucher: $240.00

Port Washington isn't that big and there are only 2 or 3 major intersections that are no bigger then typical intersections in the East Village of Manhattan. There isn't like a block long line of cars trying to get into the LIRR station with 4 lanes of cars merging. The main artery, Port Washington BLVD is a 45MPH 4 lane expressway... I would call it traffic if we were going less then 30MPH, but that's mainly used to get into or out of Port Washington. It's no Penn Station or any other terminal. I would just add 10 minutes to your total commute time. Or better yet, let google maps tell you how long. It's fairly accurate down to walking time. I wouldn't exactly worry about traffic. We live on a peninsula. No else trying to go through Port Washington except for people living in Port Washington.
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