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Unread 12-28-2011, 12:44 PM
 
Location: Suffolk County, NY
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huh???

Don't worry he never makes sense.
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Unread 12-28-2011, 12:45 PM
 
Location: Selden New York
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Anyone getting back on topic?
yes the real estate agent needs these to be built.
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Unread 12-28-2011, 12:45 PM
 
Location: Huntington, NY
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yes the real state agent needs these to be built.

Not this one
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Unread 02-17-2012, 05:09 PM
 
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In case anyone is wondering how you cram 190 homes onto 18 acres of a pristine historic site, drawings of the 4 story monstrosity that is to be the "Residences at Oheka" are up on the architects' site:

Beatty, Harvey, Coco Architects, LLP (click Portfolio -> On the Boards -> Residences at Oheka)

When Mr. Melius originally floated this idea to Cold Spring Hills residents years ago, he pitched a "quaint French village at the foothills of Oheka." Accompanying the literature were images of real medieval villages with cobbled streets and fountained squares. That Disneyesque idea appears to have been abandoned in favor of hideous tall new-construction style buildings. This is completely out of place on the North Shore - especially on an historic site. It will dwarf the historic chateau and become the dominant feature of the property. Otto and Addie Kahn must be rolling in their graves.

The Suffolk County Planning Commission's Staff Report can be found here:

http://www.suffolkcountyny.gov/Porta...cmtg020112.pdf

According to the proposal the development calls for:

262 subterranean parking spaces
130 surface spaces
74 spaces "built into a hillside" = 466 parking spaces!
No affordable housing (which is illegal in ToH)

Thankfully, the Planning Commission seems to recognize that the size of this project raises concern about the burden it will place on Jericho Tpk, local wetlands, and the danger it poses to mature growth trees and other environmental features. Based on the amounts Melius has been donating to ToH and Suffolk officials, I don't think this will matter much.
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Unread 02-17-2012, 05:32 PM
 
Location: Massapequa Park
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That development looks similar to these condos in Garden City:
111 Cherry Valley Avenue, Garden City NY | MLS# 2441393 - Trulia
100 Hilton Unit M25 Garden City NY | Prudential Douglas Elliman (http://www.elliman.com/long-island/100-hilton-unit-m25-garden-city-efoetts - broken link)
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Unread 02-17-2012, 06:17 PM
 
Location: Huntington, NY
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In case anyone is wondering how you cram 190 homes onto 18 acres of a pristine historic site, drawings of the 4 story monstrosity that is to be the "Residences at Oheka" are up on the architects' site:

Beatty, Harvey, Coco Architects, LLP (click Portfolio -> On the Boards -> Residences at Oheka)

When Mr. Melius originally floated this idea to Cold Spring Hills residents years ago, he pitched a "quaint French village at the foothills of Oheka." Accompanying the literature were images of real medieval villages with cobbled streets and fountained squares. That Disneyesque idea appears to have been abandoned in favor of hideous tall new-construction style buildings. This is completely out of place on the North Shore - especially on an historic site. It will dwarf the historic chateau and become the dominant feature of the property. Otto and Addie Kahn must be rolling in their graves.

The Suffolk County Planning Commission's Staff Report can be found here:

http://www.suffolkcountyny.gov/Porta...cmtg020112.pdf

According to the proposal the development calls for:

262 subterranean parking spaces
130 surface spaces
74 spaces "built into a hillside" = 466 parking spaces!
No affordable housing (which is illegal in ToH)

Thankfully, the Planning Commission seems to recognize that the size of this project raises concern about the burden it will place on Jericho Tpk, local wetlands, and the danger it poses to mature growth trees and other environmental features. Based on the amounts Melius has been donating to ToH and Suffolk officials, I don't think this will matter much.
Thanks for posting the link re the SCPlanning Commission. ToH usually makes a ruckus over three story high buildings - these are FOUR stories. Have to agree with you, that's definitely not the appropriate location for it!
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Unread 02-17-2012, 10:13 PM
 
Location: Selden New York
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In case anyone is wondering how you cram 190 homes onto 18 acres of a pristine historic site, drawings of the 4 story monstrosity that is to be the "Residences at Oheka" are up on the architects' site:

Beatty, Harvey, Coco Architects, LLP (click Portfolio -> On the Boards -> Residences at Oheka)

When Mr. Melius originally floated this idea to Cold Spring Hills residents years ago, he pitched a "quaint French village at the foothills of Oheka." Accompanying the literature were images of real medieval villages with cobbled streets and fountained squares. That Disneyesque idea appears to have been abandoned in favor of hideous tall new-construction style buildings. This is completely out of place on the North Shore - especially on an historic site. It will dwarf the historic chateau and become the dominant feature of the property. Otto and Addie Kahn must be rolling in their graves.

The Suffolk County Planning Commission's Staff Report can be found here:

http://www.suffolkcountyny.gov/Porta...cmtg020112.pdf

According to the proposal the development calls for:

262 subterranean parking spaces
130 surface spaces
74 spaces "built into a hillside" = 466 parking spaces!
No affordable housing (which is illegal in ToH)

Thankfully, the Planning Commission seems to recognize that the size of this project raises concern about the burden it will place on Jericho Tpk, local wetlands, and the danger it poses to mature growth trees and other environmental features. Based on the amounts Melius has been donating to ToH and Suffolk officials, I don't think this will matter much.

This don"t mean anything it will get rejected then it will be scaled down
and get built anyway thats the way long island works.
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Unread 02-18-2012, 10:20 AM
 
Location: Planet Earth
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The Suffolk County Planning Commission's Staff Report can be found here:

http://www.suffolkcountyny.gov/Porta...cmtg020112.pdf

According to the proposal the development calls for:

262 subterranean parking spaces
130 surface spaces
74 spaces "built into a hillside" = 466 parking spaces!
No affordable housing (which is illegal in ToH)
In any case, I like how they said that there are "bus routes" on Jericho Turnpike. The last time I checked, the N79 was only one route (and it runs every hour, so that's a poor excuse for traffic mitigation).

And I wonder how they'll work out the "Affordable Housing" part of the deal.
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Unread 02-18-2012, 10:38 AM
 
Location: Selden New York
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In any case, I like how they said that there are "bus routes" on Jericho Turnpike. The last time I checked, the N79 was only one route (and it runs every hour, so that's a poor excuse for traffic mitigation).

And I wonder how they'll work out the "Affordable Housing" part of the deal.
Bulldoze trees and drop a house like they always do.
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Unread 02-18-2012, 11:16 AM
 
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Thanks for posting the link re the SCPlanning Commission. ToH usually makes a ruckus over three story high buildings - these are FOUR stories. Have to agree with you, that's definitely not the appropriate location for it!
In times passed I couldn't imagine this going through as-is, but nothing surprises me these days.

Some of my neighbors are trying to look on the bright side of this, with the thinking that the extremely close proximity to these new multimillion dollar residences will significantly drive our home values up. I'm skeptical about this. As a local realtor, I'm curious about your perspective in this.

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In any case, I like how they said that there are "bus routes" on Jericho Turnpike. The last time I checked, the N79 was only one route (and it runs every hour, so that's a poor excuse for traffic mitigation).

And I wonder how they'll work out the "Affordable Housing" part of the deal.
My wife and I had a good laugh over the "bus routes" too. People willing to spend $2m on a one bedroom condo are surely likely to walk to Jericho Tpk. to take the bus to run errands. The "convenient" .25 mile walk to the LIRR (up and down some very steep hills and across the golf course) also seems silly.

The report states that they can get around the 20% affordable housing by donating 20% of the budget to the "housing fund" - to develop affordable housing elsewhere (likely dumped in Huntington Station). My understanding of the current law was that this was illegal and that all new affordable housing developments had to be spread throughout the town, not clustered in one area.
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