I have to ask. Why move to Long Island (New York: affordable apartment, credit)

[redrunner+2]

Originally Posted by dman72

Pretty simple: you move to Long Island if you get a good paying job and you want to be near NYC but not in it.

Bingo. I mean, we have looked into relocating but with the lower salary and lower cost of living, it's a wash. Also like to go into the city. Many of our hobbies are things you need to be near a city to do.

I know the weather down south is a plus to some, but I hate the heat. Most of the year the weather here is quite comfortable and I can run outside without getting up at 4am. We love the beach. Go 2-3x a week with my kids in summer. Love going to the ballet and belong to a running club and a social dance club. Like to hear live music. Like to be a few hours away from good skiing. Like being near a major airport. like to be able to walk places With my kids and not have to drive everywhere.

For a long time I was locked in to NYC because of my job, but now I am sort of moving into something else as my industry dies but for my husband to take a job elsewhere (even LI) would mean a big pay cut. Maybe CA or DC but that's probably it.

We could have a bigger house elsewhere for sure. But it is hard enough to keep my 4 BR house clean! Not really interested in that.

[gag]

Originally Posted by dman72

Pretty simple: you move to Long Island if you get a good paying job and you want to be near NYC but not in it.

Exactly, although being near family is another reason. The numbers have to work, and the key is the high paying job that enables one to live decently given the high the COL. If you don't consider NYC a place for job or recreation, most people don't understand you're paying a premium for that luxury, and they quickly get unhappy.

[kayo_michael]

Right out of college in 2008 right smack in the middle of the economic downturn and rising unemployment, a ray of light shone through and a fortune 500 company granted me employment. I jumped at the opportunity. I was willing to relocate ANYWHERE. Even overseas. I ended up in/on Long Island.

[Jetties]

Originally Posted by Autoracer9

Its the city cars traffic insane amount of pedestrians nothing to do but shop whats so great about.

huh?

[Autoracer9]

Originally Posted by Jetties

huh?

Are you thinking?

[sean sean sean sean]

Originally Posted by mongoose65

The only reason is because "it's New York." That's about it. All of the other stuff is available for less elsewhere. The fact that people can have NYC without actually living in NYC and they can claim NYerhood is the main reason. It's not the most tangible reason and hard to sell to an outsider, but it's a NYer thing, they wouldn't understand. LOL

Otherwise, I think LI is a dilapidated bung hole eating eatself with multiple layers of cannibalistic govt, taxes, unions and old farts (of all ages) trying to maintain a dead dream of 1950's middle class values and faux affluence.

But it's still NY so screw everywhere else (unless they're hiring and helping with relocation...then screw NY, I'm outtie)! nyuk nyuk nyuk

I totally agree with this, but at the same time I also love Long Island to death. All the intangible good far outweighs the evil of greedy government scumbags, lacrosse mom mall couture culture and farty nostalgia junkies for me.

IMO the reason anyone moves to, or remains living on, Long Island or any one of the other incredibly expensive NYC suburbs is very easily defined: OPPORTUNITY. I don't care what any realty website COL-calculator comparison guide may say, you've got a better shot of making the most money possible in the Big Apple than you do nearly anywhere else in this country. Maybe that money won't buy you the 3,000sf starter mansion here that it will down in Virginia - but chasing Dale Earnhardt bumper stickered DUI suspects for the Midlothian PD will NEVER buy you anything close to that!

Is this fact somehow lost on the southern transplant ex-pats or do you all realize that what bought most of you such a nice (subjective, couldn't pay me a million dollars to live south of the Mason-Dixon) lifestyle is the experience and opportunity earning a living in New York afforded you?

Be honest with yourselves. Do you really think you would have done as well by this point in your lives if you were a product of the community you now live in? If you transferred jobs (as opposed to retiring), does the salary in your field increase at the same rate it would have up here? Probably not. So even though you're making up the difference in cheaper COL, you never would have stacked up the equity that allowed you to make the move to bigger-n-better from LI in the first place as a native Tarhole!

Would you ever have gained the skills you gained here, in a ridiculously fast-paced and cut-throat competitive environment chillin' on the porch every night and drivin' the pickup to ye olde community business park for 20 years? Get real! New Yorkers have better work ethic and keener instincts. We all know this and employers do too.

That is the reason you move to Long Island: so you can accumulate enough wealth to one day cash it in on a "top-rated schools" relocation hotspot in "the New South" with all the other migrant sell-outs (I use this term in the most loving way, I assure you), if you so choose... or to stay here and give your kids that same option one day while enjoying all the good aspects LI still has - and hopefully continues - to offer.

No disrespect intended - people relocate! It's a smart move for some, it works out well. I'm not saying people shouldn't do it, but at the same time you should all be bending down on your knees and sucking Long Island's DONG instead of trying to pretend you pulled anything more than a little fish/big pond---->big fish/little pond maneuver while claiming LI as an "also ran".

[s13]

Originally Posted by Autoracer9

Are you thinking?

I'd ask you the same question, but well... y'know.

[JSnFla]

Originally Posted by ClarkStreetKid

Hey gang, if possible let's keep this thread about why a person should choose the Island and avoid the why they should move. Thanks!

its a completely flawed unrealistic question u have proposed. People from outside the NY Metro area do not move to LI unless they absolutely have to for a job. No one is moving to LI from elsewhere because its so wonderful and they need to be a part of it.

[I_Love_LI_but]

Originally Posted by sean sean sean sean

I totally agree with this, but at the same time I also love Long Island to death. All the intangible good far outweighs the evil of greedy government scumbags, lacrosse mom mall couture culture and farty nostalgia junkies for me.

IMO the reason anyone moves to, or remains living on, Long Island or any one of the other incredibly expensive NYC suburbs is very easily defined: OPPORTUNITY. I don't care what any realty website COL-calculator comparison guide may say, you've got a better shot of making the most money possible in the Big Apple than you do nearly anywhere else in this country. Maybe that money won't buy you the 3,000sf starter mansion here that it will down in Virginia - but chasing Dale Earnhardt bumper stickered DUI suspects for the Midlothian PD will NEVER buy you anything close to that!

Is this fact somehow lost on the southern transplant ex-pats or do you all realize that what bought most of you such a nice (subjective, couldn't pay me a million dollars to live south of the Mason-Dixon) lifestyle is the experience and opportunity earning a living in New York afforded you?

Be honest with yourselves. Do you really think you would have done as well by this point in your lives if you were a product of the community you now live in? If you transferred jobs (as opposed to retiring), does the salary in your field increase at the same rate it would have up here? Probably not. So even though you're making up the difference in cheaper COL, you never would have stacked up the equity that allowed you to make the move to bigger-n-better from LI in the first place as a native Tarhole!

Would you ever have gained the skills you gained here, in a ridiculously fast-paced and cut-throat competitive environment chillin' on the porch every night and drivin' the pickup to ye olde community business park for 20 years? Get real! New Yorkers have better work ethic and keener instincts. We all know this and employers do too.

That is the reason you move to Long Island: so you can accumulate enough wealth to one day cash it in on a "top-rated schools" relocation hotspot in "the New South" with all the other migrant sell-outs (I use this term in the most loving way, I assure you), if you so choose... or to stay here and give your kids that same option one day while enjoying all the good aspects LI still has - and hopefully continues - to offer.

No disrespect intended - people relocate! It's a smart move for some, it works out well. I'm not saying people shouldn't do it, but at the same time you should all be bending down on your knees and sucking Long Island's DONG instead of trying to pretend you pulled anything more than a little fish/big pond---->big fish/little pond maneuver while claiming LI as an "also ran".

Brilliant post! +5 but it should have been +5 billion (alas the system won't let me)

[Autoracer9]

Originally Posted by JSnFla

its a completely flawed unrealistic question u have proposed. People from outside the NY Metro area do not move to LI unless they absolutely have to for a job. No one is moving to LI from elsewhere because its so wonderful and they need to be a part of it.

i spit my soda all over reading that.