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Old 02-01-2012, 04:45 PM
 
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I see what you mean by adding a little overtime to some parts of Nassau.. those that have to travel a bit further. But why would that have an effect on response times? Are they changing minimum-manning requirements?




I'll follow up to what nyliguy said about percentages. Any small increase, going from 2 to 3 will look like a huge increase percentage-wise. But if you look at the yearly totals for Nassau, they are flat, to possibly even down (from an already low amount of crime). What do you mean "trust you"? I thought any police report made is added to the totals. Are they burning reports to manipulate the numbers?

If patrol cars have to travel further to conduct some aspects of their police business, that means they'll be "out of service" for longer periods of time. That, in turn, means that whatever the workload is while they're gone now has to be divided between the remaining cars. This inevitably leads to calls being held or response delayed until cars are available. This is the process known as "prioritization". What happens is that the more urgent calls get top priority and the less urgent calls go to the bottom of the list. If that's carried too far, it gets like NYC where an oncoming shift routinely has 20 calls backed up waiting for each patrol car. Not where you want to be. And not what the NCPD has been known for in the past.
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Old 02-01-2012, 04:46 PM
 
Location: Wallens Ridge
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Nassau County is officially and completely... screwed...

What was once, the premier locale to live and work, or even to commute to NYC to work, is done....

For decades they've relied on their old money taxpayer base of the north shore's Gold Coast, their Dashing Commuters of central Nassau, to support their elected leader's and their self-entitlement mentality.
A mentality that continued to fill the County and, these jerkoff local Villages their DPW's and their PD's with Crony Jobs for relatives and friends at TOP Dollar salaries. While their answer to funding that and their own pockets, was to raise taxes higher and higher...

What no one in office had noticed was, the vast majority of their taxpayer base was busy packing and leaving.
The taxpayer base vacancies in Nassau are being filled with a combination of, either illegal immigrants, who will fill a house and rent room by room. Then drown the local school board with bi-lingual or non english speaking students, and flood the local Hospital with child births, spousal abuses, asthma attacks and gunshot victims. All being subsidized, if not paid directly by the state or the Hospital itself.

Or a vast migration of religious specialists, who refuse to fund local school boards, or even participate in local volunteer emergency services, other than their own. (both shadow governments, by definition)

A drive down any Main Street in Nassau County now lists nothing but closed out shops, boarded up commercial property, Bellevue like Emergency Room conditions. Village names like East Rockaway, Valley Stream, Lynbrook USA, Great Neck, Mineola, that once demonstrated how a functioning Commuter, or Bedroom Community could take care of itself. Are now empty skeletons of the greater welfare state being constructed by Socialist engineering, to ensure a safe haven for agenerational entitlement mentalitynot only supported, but encouraged by socialist leaders, as long as they VOTE correctly....

NCPD is an endangered species...with the County's influx of entitlement requiring patrons. The concept of all emergency services inside Nassau- and Suffolk as well- that are dependent on Volunteers from within a community to provide for itself, eg; EMS/FIRE. Are now an idea as foreign, as a house full of illegal aliens in Great Neck, or Manhasset would have been 20 years ago...

You can't pay a Cop $175-200 grand a year, when now you're going to have to maintain a full time paid, EMS and FIRE as well. EMS/FIRE by the way are doing the lion's share of the real life and death work in Nassau anyway.

sumating has a gotta giva...
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Old 02-01-2012, 04:54 PM
 
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Nassau County is officially and completely... screwed...

What was once, the premier locale to live and work, or even to commute to NYC to work, is done....

For decades they've relied on their old money taxpayer base of the north shore's Gold Coast, their Dashing Commuters of central Nassau, to support their elected leader's and their self-entitlement mentality.
A mentality that continued to fill the County and, these jerkoff local Villages their DPW's and their PD's with Crony Jobs for relatives and friends at TOP Dollar salaries. While their answer to funding that and their own pockets, was to raise taxes higher and higher...

What no one in office had noticed was, the vast majority of their taxpayer base was busy packing and leaving.
The taxpayer base vacancies in Nassau are being filled with a combination of, either illegal immigrants, who will fill a house and rent room by room. Then drown the local school board with bi-lingual or non english speaking students, and flood the local Hospital with child births, spousal abuses, asthma attacks and gunshot victims. All being subsidized, if not paid directly by the state or the Hospital itself.

Or a vast migration of religious specialists, who refuse to fund local school boards, or even participate in local volunteer emergency services, other than their own. (both shadow governments, by definition)

A drive down any Main Street in Nassau County now lists nothing but closed out shops, boarded up commercial property, Bellevue like Emergency Room conditions. Village names like East Rockaway, Valley Stream, Lynbrook USA, Great Neck, Mineola, that once demonstrated how a functioning Commuter, or Bedroom Community could take care of itself. Are now empty skeletons of the greater welfare state being constructed by Socialist engineering, to ensure a safe haven for agenerational entitlement mentalitynot only supported, but encouraged by socialist leaders, as long as they VOTE correctly....

NCPD is an endangered species...with the County's influx of entitlement requiring patrons. The concept of all emergency services inside Nassau- and Suffolk as well- that are dependent on Volunteers from within a community to provide for itself, eg; EMS/FIRE. Are now an idea as foreign, as a house full of illegal aliens in Great Neck, or Manhasset would have been 20 years ago...

You can't pay a Cop $175-200 grand a year, when now you're going to have to maintain a full time paid, EMS and FIRE as well. EMS/FIRE by the way are doing the lion's share of the real life and death work in Nassau anyway.

sumating has a gotta giva...
Mike, I had high hopes for Mangano after watching Suozzi's shenanigans for eight years. However, after seeing Mangano in action for the past couple of years, I've concluded that he is as bad - or maybe worse - than Suozzi. The blatant politics and patronage that are the hallmark of his administration are disgusting. As far as the police department goes, things ran well until Suozzi took over and started bringing in outside people to run it. He also interfered routinely and regularly with the running of the department. That same trend is part of Mangano's act. It seems that the department was at its peak (both in its operations and its reputation) when it was relatively free from political interference.
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Old 02-01-2012, 05:09 PM
 
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while were on this topic, I got a 2012 nassau detective pba card today!
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Old 02-01-2012, 05:46 PM
 
Location: Nassau, Long Island, NY
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while were on this topic, I got a 2012 nassau detective pba card today!
Like this?

Nassau Police PBA Card 2012 (Collectible) | eBay

Here's a nice set:

2012 NASSAU POLICE COURTESY CARD LEATHER WALLET MINI SHIELD NY SBA PBA | eBay
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Old 02-01-2012, 06:06 PM
 
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no, its a detectives card. it acually says "DAI" rather than PBA. the cover is a black and white photo with 14 detectives on the front.
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Old 02-01-2012, 06:48 PM
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while were on this topic, I got a 2012 nassau detective pba card today!
Which one of your names is printed on it?
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Old 02-01-2012, 07:30 PM
 
Location: Massapequa Park
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while were on this topic, I got a 2012 nassau detective pba card today!
Who in the hell gave you a PBA card?? I swear, they're giving these things out to anyone. Whoever it was better realize the repercussions of this-- and that they've put Nassau residents at risk. If your reckless behavior due to having this card causes injury to anyone, a major lawsuit will be coming.
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Old 02-01-2012, 07:36 PM
 
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while were on this topic, I got a 2012 nassau detective pba card today!
Just don't get pulled over by a dep in Suffolk.
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Old 02-01-2012, 09:05 PM
 
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Default Its the house of cards

It all comes tumbling! I hate to see anyone loose there job, however...its getting out of control. You cant keep on passing the bill to the tax payers.

At the same time, those who want the pct's to stay open...should not complain there taxes are too high.
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