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Old 02-07-2012, 07:11 AM
 
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These days Crooks the Island is competing with the entire country, from Rochester NY to Bellevue WA for value. Long Island leaders really have to get together for a real silicon island to happen.
Excellent point on Rochester in the wake of EK.
NC with SAS ...yes.Bellevue...not $o much.

The talent here is sublime and employers know it.The question is if the positions can be lucrative enough (like the Valley) to support the COL.

If CA plays its cards right, it could own half of the Cloud and to think of the startups to follow.
Follow the money....Buffet just doubled down on Mainframe with IBM (Again NY) and he dont buy tech.

We'll see.

Crooks
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Old 02-07-2012, 08:08 AM
 
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Excellent point on Rochester in the wake of EK.
NC with SAS ...yes.Bellevue...not $o much.

The talent here is sublime and employers know it.The question is if the positions can be lucrative enough (like the Valley) to support the COL.

If CA plays its cards right, it could own half of the Cloud and to think of the startups to follow.
Follow the money....Buffet just doubled down on Mainframe with IBM (Again NY) and he dont buy tech.

We'll see.

Crooks
Good stuff. Reading the posts reminds me the Island can first siphon jobs from NYC. Those who would make lateral pay moves to avoid the commute. Then the relocators and ultimately in tech bubble dream land, the H1 visa holders!
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Old 02-07-2012, 10:54 AM
 
Location: Little Babylon
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The question is if the positions can be lucrative enough (like the Valley) to support the COL.
And that's going to be the hard part. One other problem that someone else pointed out is that a lot of start ups happen in NYC, which can sometimes act as a filter for VC money.

Another potential issue is the age of the talent pool. Young folks without families are cheaper, more flexible and can risk a start up, older more experienced talent with a couple of kids in college will likely stay put in their established company, unless of course they can make it on one salary or have substantial savings.
I'd love to see several tech start up clusters start up on the Island, the Hempsted one is very interesting though one on the East End less connected to NYC could also be a winner.

BTW, Here's an a blog by a fairly smart guy on the different types of start ups.
Why Governments Don’t Get Startups–Or, Why There’s Only One Silicon Valley | Xconomy
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Old 02-07-2012, 11:07 AM
 
Location: Union County
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Honest question... Hasn't this been tried before - i.e. exGrumman Great River? Which is basically the same idea of using exGrumman Calverton for a "tech corridor", yet GR is much closer to the city and sits vacant now.

Beyond that, will the NIMBYs kick in and c-block like usual?

Crooks - I still struggle with your "steal" statement when it comes to everything LI. Especially when you never back it up with any true data. I mean, you're a smart guy - it loses impact when you find everything to be a steal... lol
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Old 02-07-2012, 11:56 AM
 
Location: Queens
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Beyond that, will the NIMBYs kick in and c-block like usual?
Undoubtedly. Until most of Long Island's first major wave of residents, i.e., Baby Boomers are gone, I wouldn't except too much change from the single-family typical suburban Long Island ideals they try to hold on to.
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Old 02-07-2012, 11:57 AM
 
Location: Queens
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And this is unfortunate.
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Old 02-07-2012, 01:13 PM
 
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Honest question... Hasn't this been tried before - i.e. exGrumman Great River? Which is basically the same idea of using exGrumman Calverton for a "tech corridor", yet GR is much closer to the city and sits vacant now.

Beyond that, will the NIMBYs kick in and c-block like usual?

Crooks - I still struggle with your "steal" statement when it comes to everything LI. Especially when you never back it up with any true data. I mean, you're a smart guy - it loses impact when you find everything to be a steal... lol
It's all relative Kid. Price out a few bungalows on the Peninsula and get back to me.

LI is a steal in comparison.

Crooks
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