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Old 02-21-2012, 09:14 AM
 
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As usual, our small group of resident police critics has taken a snippet of incomplete information from that famously accurate local newspaper and run with it to the point of complete hysteria.

To set the record straight, the Newsday article fails to mention that the proposed payout (and in particular the example cited) depends solely on the amount of days that an individual officer has banked throughout his twenty year career. If he has not banked unused vacation, comp time or sick leave, his payout will be substantially lower than the cited example. There is no automatic payout of 2.5 times base salary. Period.

Now let the nonsense begin ...
Sorry for making tongue in cheek comments based on what they "failed" to mention. It's that defensive stance of yours that any good crime fighter can tell is a sign of a guilty conscience.

It continues to be disingenuous to call anyone who thinks salaries and benefits are too high a "police critic." That's just utter crap. My buddy is the first to laugh and admit $202k is crazy money. He's not giving it back and he absolutely WILL NOT retire while he's taking in bucks like that. We just nudge the dinner bill towards him at the end of the night.
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Old 02-21-2012, 09:23 AM
 
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Sorry for making tongue in cheek comments based on what they "failed" to mention. It's that defensive stance of yours that any good crime fighter can tell is a sign of a guilty conscience.

It continues to be disingenuous to call anyone who thinks salaries and benefits are too high a "police critic." That's just utter crap. My buddy is the first to laugh and admit $202k is crazy money. He's not giving it back and he absolutely WILL NOT retire while he's taking in bucks like that. We just nudge the dinner bill towards him at the end of the night.
Yeah, I'm sure you really have a cop buddy.

With your obvious HATRED for cops, how can anyone believe that one of NCPD's highly educated supermen would even consider breaking bread with such a plebian as yourself? You could only hope to have reached the level of accomplishment to be allowed to grace the presence of these veritable renaissance knights in shining armor. Only PHD's need apply to this upper crust.

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Old 02-21-2012, 09:42 AM
 
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Yeah, I'm sure you really have a cop buddy.

With your obvious HATRED for cops, how can anyone believe that one of NCPD's highly educated supermen would even consider breaking bread with such a plebian as yourself? You could only hope to have reached the level of accomplishment to be allowed to grace the presence of these veritable renaissance knights in shining armor. Only PHD's need apply to this upper crust.

Well actually he doesn't pick up the dinner tab. Whines about his Harley payment. He does give us superior officer cards for xmas every few years. At my last bbq I introduced all the LE guys to each other (Air Marshall, NCPD LT., couple of court officers, NYPD sgt) and they congregated together all day like a ladies book club. I still bust their chops about it. Elitist punks. "No ribs for you!" Back on topic, the NCPD guy makes close to triple what the other guys make. In fairness he is a higher ranking officer but even as a patrolman he made close to double.

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Old 02-21-2012, 10:29 AM
 
Location: Nassau, Long Island, NY
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Double dipping? That's nothing. A friend of mine has 3 pensions coming to him, 1 federal, one state, and one town. Triple dipping is the new double. Once you get your nose into this taxpayer feeding trough, you can really do quite well for yourself.
Oh, I am hopelessly behind when it comes to things like this!

Double dipping? What a sap. Now it's triple dipping!

What do I know about these things sitting here in the private sector.
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Old 02-21-2012, 10:30 AM
 
Location: Nassau, Long Island, NY
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Where's haywood? This thread should be right up his alley ...
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Old 02-21-2012, 10:44 AM
 
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Oh, I am hopelessly behind when it comes to things like this!

Double dipping? What a sap. Now it's triple dipping!

What do I know about these things sitting here in the private sector.
Once you get into the "know" of political patronage, there are all kinds of little part time things you can get hooked up with. It's quite astounding.
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Old 02-21-2012, 10:53 AM
 
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Sorry for making tongue in cheek comments based on what they "failed" to mention. It's that defensive stance of yours that any good crime fighter can tell is a sign of a guilty conscience.

It continues to be disingenuous to call anyone who thinks salaries and benefits are too high a "police critic." That's just utter crap. My buddy is the first to laugh and admit $202k is crazy money. He's not giving it back and he absolutely WILL NOT retire while he's taking in bucks like that. We just nudge the dinner bill towards him at the end of the night.
Re-read my post carefully. I'm not taking any stance other than to offer more accurate information. The "police critics" in these threads are ready to pounce on anything they can to demonize cops. More often than not, it's an agenda. And more often than not, those same folks aren't interested in accurate and factual information.

Bottom line is that folks here should be doing a bit more research before seizing on flawed Newsday articles to try and make a point.

And you might want to forego the psychoanalysis. You're not that good.
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Old 02-21-2012, 10:55 AM
 
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Yeah, in your dreams an NCPD superhero graced you with his presence. When these people aren't doing traffic stops, they are doing Jason Bourne style espionage. The NCPD guy took your ribs so quickly that you didn't even see him do it..probably got your wife too. They hire just anybody for these elite positions, you know.
I've never seen anyone so bitter about poor career choices. I wonder how your civil service wife puts up with your frustrations and disappointments.
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Old 02-21-2012, 10:56 AM
 
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Oh, I am hopelessly behind when it comes to things like this!

Double dipping? What a sap. Now it's triple dipping!

What do I know about these things sitting here in the private sector.
Still haven't answered the question, princess. What do you think the definition of double dipping is?
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Old 02-21-2012, 11:06 AM
 
Location: Massapequa Park
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As usual, our small group of resident police critics has taken a snippet of incomplete information from that famously accurate local newspaper and run with it to the point of complete hysteria.

To set the record straight, the Newsday article fails to mention that the proposed payout (and in particular the example cited) depends solely on the amount of days that an individual officer has banked throughout his twenty year career. If he has not banked unused vacation, comp time or sick leave, his payout will be substantially lower than the cited example. There is no automatic payout of 2.5 times base salary. Period.

Now let the nonsense begin ...
I don't think anyone's a police critic, but it's hard to ignore the "other side" of the high-tax problem. Does it really make financial sense expanding these already generous severance packages when most NCPD officers are going out with a nice pension anyway? I was wrong in supporting Mangano for doing this 2 years ago. I thought the math made sense giving an incentive for the ultra high $200k+ earners to retire, and replacing them with officers earning 1/4th of that...but look what's happened since then -- the $200k+ earners are right back on the payrolls according to seethroughny. I counted something like 50-60 officers making $199k to $250k in 2011. 2010 had about 20 earning $199k to $220k.

It's so obvious the precinct change is ALL about getting around the minimum manning requirements that have put Nassau in a stranglehold. I think this will be a defining moment for Carver..all the rhetoric on burglaries rising, "we are putting the residents in danger" is baloney. Combine to make larger precincts and the archaic minimum manning rules are easily solved. They don't make us any safer. All they do is cost Nassau A LOT more money in unnecessary Overtime.
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