Nassau County Legis. feels harassed by cops after vote

[L.I.N.Y.]

Originally Posted by Goodnight

The people that read the report have a different opinion, the current police chief, arbitrators and legislators.

The Commissioner has the NYPD mentality of throwing everyone under the bus. The arbitrators and legislators have no right passing off judgement on anyone else considering they're having difficulty enough managing to do their own jobs. It's sad that the girl died and the kids will be parentless but most likely nothing would have changed that.

[dman72]

Originally Posted by L.I.N.Y.

Unfortunately the girl would have died anyways. Even if arrest were made and he didn't call her on the cell, he'd be out to kill before you can say 'chicken dinner.' Instead of blaming who is actually responsible - the perp (and the victim for dating a known gang member) people always find it easier to blame the police.

"The girl would have died anyways."

"The guy was innocent of the crime, but was a bad guy anyway".

Gott love the justifications for things that run the gamut from bad police work to criminal conduct.

People always find it easier to blame the police? From your post, it sounds like cops always find it easier to blame victims of their comrades mistakes/miscounduct than take any responsibility themselves.

[WIHS2006]

From today's Newsday:

Too Much Power for Island's Police
I am becoming fearful of Long Island's police ["Precinct plan spurs critics' ad campaign," News, Feb. 19].
Simply put, our police seem to now live "on top of the hill" and not with the majority of the population.
I am fearful that our elected officials no longer control our police departments, and the police only will be reporting to themselves and their elected union bosses.
Peter E. Williams, Bayport

Sounds about accurate to me. All LE agencies should report to an elected official for accountability purposes. This is why I prefer disbanding the SCPD and absorbing it into the Suffolk County Sheriff's Office - the sheriff is elected by We the People of Suffolk County.

Peter Williams, if your reading this: It takes balls to publicly use your real name to speak out against the excesses of the status quo. I commend you.

[Goodnight]

Originally Posted by L.I.N.Y.

The Commissioner has the NYPD mentality of throwing everyone under the bus. The arbitrators and legislators have no right passing off judgement on anyone else considering they're having difficulty enough managing to do their own jobs. It's sad that the girl died and the kids will be parentless but most likely nothing would have changed that.

Arbitrators have no right passing judgement, that is their job function. The discipline (according to the PBA Contract) required one person from each side and an independent arbitrator, notice the word independent.

Still waiting for an answer on how you know she would have died anyway, one of the most ridiculous and insensitive statements I have heard in quite sometime.

[dman72]

Originally Posted by WIHS2006

From today's Newsday:
Sounds about accurate to me. All LE agencies should report to an elected official for accountability purposes. This is why I prefer disbanding the SCPD and absorbing it into the Suffolk County Sheriff's Office - the sheriff is elected by We the People of Suffolk County.

Peter Williams, if your reading this: It takes balls to publicly use your real name to speak out against the excesses of the status quo. I commend you.

I wonder if he will be getting pulled over for not being "a friend" to the police.

A lot of cops in Bayport-Bluepoint. But I'm sure our Suffolk boys in blue aren't capable of this sort of punitive thuggery.

[L.I.N.Y.]

Originally Posted by Goodnight

Arbitrators have no right passing judgement, that is their job function. The discipline (according to the PBA Contract) required one person from each side and an independent arbitrator, notice the word independent.

Still waiting for an answer on how you know she would have died anyway, one of the most ridiculous and insensitive statements I have heard in quite sometime.

Don't know why I added arbitrators to my rant, they are supposed to pass judgement like you said.

She would have died because he would have been out of jail as soon as he made bail. If he was sentenced it would only be for a couple of months. Even if he was completely out of the picture she would still probably be dating gang members. Unfortunately some people don't realize the consequences of their actions which is why her kid will sadly be growing up without parents. It is sad the Criminal Justice as a whole failed her, but she was a risk taker.

[Goodnight]

I have to wonder why this came from the PBA, it would have been nice to hear Carver's reasoning. If it was it about protecting their sources, why wouldn't this come from the PC or was this about protecting the image of suspended officers.


"The Nassau Police Benevolent Association has asked a federal judge to enforce a gag order on an internal police report in the wrongful death case of Jo'Anna Bird after a Nassau legislator disclosed elements of it in a TV news interview."


PBA wants gag order in Bird case enforced

[earle75]

We needs cuts on everything from cops to county workers. Taxes are out of hand and need to be lower. Look at the schools 1 teacher for 12 kids and they still are behind other area's that have 1 to 20. Sick of paying high taxes for a postage size lot.