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Old 03-21-2011, 12:43 PM
 
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I live in-between Carle Place and New Hyde Park off of Jericho Turnpike. Of the 4 houses on 4 sides of my house 3 out of 4 people died from Lung cancer. Another had Breast cancer.
I just wish I knew that before I bought my house.. I would have run the other way.
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Old 03-21-2011, 01:10 PM
 
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Wait, what you mean to say is that if someone told you that you would not have bought the house?
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Old 03-24-2011, 02:16 AM
 
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I actually asked my OB and my internist their thoughts about the cancer clusters on LI. They both said exactly the same thing...that LI is highly populated and most of the people in these areas are quite affluent...therefore having access to good medical care. Their cancer is found early and "put on the record", whereas people in poorer areas go for long periods of time without treatment or even die from cancer without ever seeing a doctor..
That logic is flawed. Even if people in poorer areas were not diagnosed in life, they would be at the time of death. (required) And therefore would still be counted in the cancer statistics as deaths from cancer. (a part of the overall numbers)

When you have statistics of 50% or higher numbers of cancer incidence than the national average in a relatively small area, there's obviously something out of the ordinary going on. And there are areas of Long Island, NY where that is the case.
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Old 03-24-2011, 02:23 AM
 
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http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC151676/
Local clustering in breast, lung and colorectal cancer in Long Island, New York
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Old 03-24-2011, 07:06 AM
 
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Local clustering in breast, lung and colorectal cancer in Long Island, New York
Local clustering in breast, lung and colorectal cancer in Long Island, New York
The incidences of lung cancer are startling, even more so than breast cancer.
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Old 03-24-2011, 01:48 PM
 
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The method of cancer clustering in certain regions are not to specifically prove thats the region that contributes to cancer. It's to grasp the idea that "this is the area where it seems to pop up the most". There is only so much scientists can do for cancer and to grasp the idea of areas where people become more prone to diseases is ONLY to help them figure out what's going on in that region. It can be many things from environmental to bad habbits to genetics. However, many places do directly contribute to cancer. Rocky places like Connecticut radiate radon from their rocks that causes mutations in genes lowering the immune system so it cannot fight off the mutations. So, yeah it really doesn't help that much as it does help.
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Old 03-24-2011, 02:18 PM
 
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The method of cancer clustering in certain regions are not to specifically prove thats the region that contributes to cancer. It's to grasp the idea that "this is the area where it seems to pop up the most". There is only so much scientists can do for cancer and to grasp the idea of areas where people become more prone to diseases is ONLY to help them figure out what's going on in that region. It can be many things from environmental to bad habbits to genetics. However, many places do directly contribute to cancer. Rocky places like Connecticut radiate radon from their rocks that causes mutations in genes lowering the immune system so it cannot fight off the mutations. So, yeah it really doesn't help that much as it does help.
Much like places in Ohio that have multiple kids dying of rare leukemia cases within a short period of time in a few square mile zone - genetics/bad habits - not likely. Enviornmental - certainly; after the 4th kid died they figured out that back during the 40's there was a large chemical company making stuff for the government, company went out of business, they capped the land with top soil and 50 years later, the normal healthy kids started getting sick and dying.

They termed that area a "cancer cluster".
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Old 03-24-2011, 09:19 PM
 
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I am not too familiar with the cancer clusters on Long Island. However, I was listening to an interview with Erin Brokovich, and she stated that most cancer clusters seem to form around the superfund sites. She has recently put out a new book. There is a map on Long Island that shows the superfund sites, but I don't know where to locate it. It appeared in Newsday years ago. I'm sure it is available with some research.
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Old 04-08-2011, 11:44 PM
 
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Bad habbits can absolutley be part of cancer clustering. Look it up. People who live with in the same regions tend to do the same things and have the same habbitual tendencies on a broad spectrum. Kind of like how New Yorker's have a completely different accent then people who live in Connecticut even if they are only across the sound. Or how people who live on Staten Island have a much different accent than those who live on Long Island. There have been numerous studies done on smokers for cancer clustering targeted in specific areas. Streets, towns, counties, states...
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Old 04-09-2011, 07:40 AM
 
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Bad habbits can absolutley be part of cancer clustering. Look it up. People who live with in the same regions tend to do the same things and have the same habbitual tendencies on a broad spectrum. Kind of like how New Yorker's have a completely different accent then people who live in Connecticut even if they are only across the sound. Or how people who live on Staten Island have a much different accent than those who live on Long Island. There have been numerous studies done on smokers for cancer clustering targeted in specific areas. Streets, towns, counties, states...
Lol.
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