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Old 09-27-2007, 09:21 PM
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When I said "marginal" areas in referring to those towns I was not talking code about "darker" people....please. I am not from long island originally and hate how segregated it is by train stop. It is ridiculous.

Not at all ridiculous. Just the reality of our society. Nbres was right on target.

Quote"Babylon Village is nice, but North Babylon is not as nice".

Why do YOU think this is the case?

Quote " There are plenty of "marginal" areas that are very WHITE".

Name Two.

Quote" When I moved to long island years ago it became clear to me I was one of the only democrats on the entire island...to presume any bias on my part is rude."
Talk about ridiculous statements! According to the NYS Board of Elections,in 2000, there were 246,496 reg. democrats in Suffolk County. Guess you weren't really looking hard enough.
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Old 09-28-2007, 09:32 AM
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Hi, I can definitely understand your frustrations...been there and done that...I would like to suggest Lynbrook, NY. It's a small town with its own police department, excellent schools (S.D. 20), little local restaurants and so on. Yes I'm bias because I was born there, but like many of us after finishing college, marriage...we've returned to raise our children in this small, tight community. It's an excellent starter community that ultimately we just end up staying. There is easy access to NYC. There is the main LIRR line and an LIRR line at Westwood (north part of Lynbrook).
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Old 09-28-2007, 02:20 PM
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Why are people on this board so afraid to speak their minds!

I hate this talking in code. Just say it, be honest.
B/c I have and have gotten censored as being rude, racist, and/or off topic...I don't want to offend anyone.
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Old 09-28-2007, 03:46 PM
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When I said "marginal" areas in referring to those towns I was not talking code about "darker" people....please. I am not from long island originally and hate how segregated it is by train stop. It is ridiculous.

Not at all ridiculous. Just the reality of our society. Nbres was right on target.

Quote"Babylon Village is nice, but North Babylon is not as nice".

Why do YOU think this is the case?

Quote " There are plenty of "marginal" areas that are very WHITE".

Name Two.

Quote" When I moved to long island years ago it became clear to me I was one of the only democrats on the entire island...to presume any bias on my part is rude."


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Talk about ridiculous statements! According to the NYS Board of Elections,in 2000, there were 246,496 reg. democrats in Suffolk County. Guess you weren't really looking hard enough.


First off my comments were not directed at you, but for whatever reason you have chosen start some debate. My train stop comments were in reference to the veiled inference that I thought a town stunk because too many minorities lived there. Not sure why you felt a need to comment back to me on that point...but anywho. So, in response to your smug reply, I think North Babylon is not as nice because the school scores in that district compared to Babylon Village are simply not good, and a quick drive through either area shows the contrast in how the houses are kept. North Babylon area seems a bit dumpier to me. You don't agree? I notice it whenever I visit some friends in the area (N.Babylon area). And Mr. Sarcasm, as for naming TWO areas that are marginal but white, Copaigue, Lindenhurst and Shirley (three) pop to mind immediately but I can certainly research more (they are all in excess of 80%white, schools are mediocre at best, kinda trashy areas). No offense to anyone in those towns, but I am not a fan. Just my opinion.

And as for your final Democrat comment, I should have been more clear. I FELT like one of the few democrats on the island, which if you are being honest and not obnoxious it is a pretty fair assessment when I moved here in '97, given the Nassau County Exec, Suffolk County Exec, and Townships where I lived like Brookhaven, Smithtown and Islip had not seen a Democratic leader in multiple decades (You can feel free to pull up some archane stat to dispute me, but let's be serious). I think Levy is the first Democrat in over 40 years? My apologies as Long Island has long been a bastion of multiple party rule...And as an aside, I am currently unaffiliated....
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Old 09-28-2007, 04:19 PM
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[i] Copaigue, Lindenhurst and Shirley (three) pop to mind immediately but I can certainly research more (they are all in excess of 80%white, schools are mediocre at best, kinda trashy areas).
I would add to that list Frankin Square, Levittown, Salisbury. Not phenomenal, just ok.

Many very white towns are not bad, not great, just marginal in at least one aspect or more (not limited to schools, property maintenance, values, amenities, attributes, location,etc). But then again, it is all very subjective.
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Quote"Babylon Village is nice, but North Babylon is not as nice".

Why do YOU think this is the case?


Because one is a pretty little village with wonderful parks, restaurants & flowers all around. And, one is North Babylon. It has nada to do with race.
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Old 09-28-2007, 04:49 PM
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I would add to that list Frankin Square, Levittown, Salisbury. Not phenomenal, just ok.

Many very white towns are not bad, not great, just marginal in at least one aspect or more (not limited to schools, property maintenance, values, amenities, attributes, location,etc). But then again, it is all very subjective.
Just becauese town is White doesnt mean its nice.
I think most of Western White Nassau is marginal to be honest with you..it looks like Queens gone wrong to me, but your right...its very subjective.

Where in the hell is Salsbury?...theres a town I never heard of.
Mus be by Kensngton or Flower Hill(like I know where the hell they are?).

As for Copiague,if it wasnt for the illegal Polish....that district would be all Black.
(My wife was a teacher there for years)

Ill be the contrarian,I dont think Lindenhurst is that bad, and I think Shirley has come a very long way(North Shirley).

Mastic may be lost due to Section 8, Neighborhood road and the Res.
We'll see

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Old 09-28-2007, 05:03 PM
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Just becauese town is White doesnt mean its nice.
I think most of Western White Nassau is marginal to be honest with you.
Looks like Queens gone wrong to me.

Where in the hell is Salsbury?...theres a town I never heard of.

As for Copiague,if it wasnt for the illegal Polish....that district would be all Black.
My wife was a teacher there for years.

Ill be the contrarian,I dont think Lindenhurst is that bad, and I think Shirley has come a very long way(North Shirley)

Mastic may be a lost cause.


We'll see

C
I apologize to everyone in the forum. I am simply on here now and again to share in the discussion about long island. I felt a little put upon by NYJoe with his sarcastic quips, which I should just ignore and move on from. As for North Shirley, and I say this half kidding, as a rule of thumb areas where people feel they have to draw a distinction based in particular on their geography within the town tend to be marginal...for example, South Setauket didn't seem to be as prevalent until folks figured it sounded better than Centereach and justified the price they paid on their home . North Shirley is still technically Shirley. My humble opinion.
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Just becauese town is White doesnt mean its nice.
I think most of Western White Nassau is marginal to be honest with you..it looks like Queens gone wrong to me, but your right...its very subjective.

Where in the hell is Salsbury?...theres a town I never heard of.
Mus be by Kensngton or Flower Hill(like I know where the hell they are?).

As for Copiague,if it wasnt for the illegal Polish....that district would be all Black.
(My wife was a teacher there for years)

Ill be the contrarian,I dont think Lindenhurst is that bad, and I think Shirley has come a very long way(North Shirley).

Mastic may be lost due to Section 8, Neighborhood road and the Res.
We'll see

C
I think Salisbury used to be called South Westbury, it's the area just north of Eisenhower Park. Kensington is in the Great Neck area, Flower Hill is just south of Port Washington. I'm with you on Lindenhurst...although I don't see how Lindenhurst is any nicer than any of these other supposedly "marginal" white towns mentioned...
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Old 09-28-2007, 09:56 PM
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I apologize to everyone in the forum. I am simply on here now and again to share in the discussion about long island. I felt a little put upon by NYJoe with his sarcastic quips, which I should just ignore and move on from. As for North Shirley, and I say this half kidding, as a rule of thumb areas where people feel they have to draw a distinction based in particular on their geography within the town tend to be marginal...for example, South Setauket didn't seem to be as prevalent until folks figured it sounded better than Centereach and justified the price they paid on their home . North Shirley is still technically Shirley. My humble opinion.
South Setauket aint Setauket, just ask a local.
As for Shirley there is a difference, North Shirley goes to Longwood.
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