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10-17-2007, 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete F
I don't believe Christopher killed Jessica. He did have sex with her. And I think he denied that.
There was this 711 manager who said he saw Jessica at the store at a time which would have proven Christopher could not have done it. That man changed his story the next day and said it must have been the day before.
There was a man who is a something of a part-time ADA in Suffolk that came forth and stated he jogs by each morning where the body was found. He said that was at 7AM each day. He stated that without any doubt Jessica's body was not there when he passed by, and there is no way he couldn't have not noticed it. That bit of information would have precluded Chris from killing Jessica.
The police had a person of interest they said they couldn't find. As I heard it the man was a police narcotics informant and they would have known where he was all during the 3 months they were looking for him.
The lawyer who jogged by was interviewed by detectives recently, and I am told they brow-beat him to death.
The private investigators that worked for the defense were invited to Spota's office and brought with them a 7' foot timeline report that they believed demonstrated that Christopher didn't do this. It fell on deaf ears, and the DA didn't have the courtesy to tell him that they were not interested in his findings.
There is an issue of another DNA found in/on her body which would indicate she had sex with another. As far as I know that DNA has never been tested.
There is a meeting this coming 21st of October where a Jeffrey Deskovic will speak of his ordeal for a murder he didn't commit and served 16 years in a prison. He was totally exonerated of that crime, and the DNA review that was taken by the Innocence Project determined who the real killer was.
If you know the parents, I urge you to tell them to attend this meeting as it is expected representatives from the IP will be in attendance. There is nothing like a personal appearance to stir up some interest and get them on this case as there may be evidence of other DNA other than Christophers.
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My question is: Was McCready the detective on the Loliscio case?
Also in the case, I vaguely recall something about time and tides and the location of her body as an indicator of when she was left there and how it couldn't place CL at there when they said he was? (I am trying to recall as best as possible, please correct me where I am wrong.)
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10-18-2007, 09:20 AM
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Ha, ha!
He wound up getting indicted for some kind of financial shenanigans...he tried to ease out of it by splitting to Israel under the auspices of the Law of Return, but they wouldn't take him.
Meyer Lansky, either.
How about Martin Tankleff? Sounds like he got railroaded.
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Crazy Eddie...He's...IN....JAIL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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10-21-2007, 09:24 AM
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YES, THERE WAS SOME VERY complicated issues of times and tides that the defense was at a disadvantage to prove considering the resources. There was also an issue about salt water v. clear water. Jessica was given a necklace or something by a bad guy who wanted it back. she refused. he made threats.
the 711 guy changed his mind - and, he won't talk - which is typical of SCPD. they must have something on him.
A neigbor of CL may have allowed his home to be a monitoring station for an illegal bug in CL's house - he ain't talking either.
my recollection is that there was a son of a SCPD detective that was nearby at the crime scene hanging out after a party. he was interviewed by a detective and cleared of all suspicion. oh, the detective was his father. in all fairness, I should tell you that the kid was NOT ever considered a real suspect and most likely had nothing to do with the murder. It is just to show you that SCPD has its own rules to investigate a case.
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10-21-2007, 09:27 AM
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there may also be two sets of seminal DNA. as i understand it if there was such DNA, the results have never been known to the defense counsel. Just another 'victim' of SCPD. They are good in kiddie cases.
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10-21-2007, 09:49 AM
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KIDDIE CASES: TOM SPOTA EARNED HIS STRIPES IN SUCH CASES in the 1979 murder case of John Pius JR. - the little boy with the rocks stuffed down his throat. That investigation lingered on for about 7 months until one 14 year old kid suddenly gave information to Team Spota that one of the kids told him incriminating statements about the murder. Convictions were had on three of the four teenagers, and overturned, and re-convicted, and lingered on for 12 years. The 14 year old teenageer grew to be a man, and became a SCPD police officer when he testifed at the trial of the person he said gave him an incriminating statement. That statement he gave was contradicted by the victim's father. No matter for a Suffolk jury.
The little boy, police officer, detective, is now the right hand man of ---------you ready for this? District Attorney Thomas J. Spota !
He runs Tommy's SCPD detective squad as its commanding officer - police inspector. Honorable Tommy has so much faith in this fellow that he has made him his Chief Investigator commanding the civilian arm of his investigation staff. While The Honorable Tommy appears to have great confidence in his former star witness, the police commissioner may not. Recently, the commissioner removed the major case squad (the little boys command) out of the Detective Bureau (where it belongs) and placed it under the umbrella of the Police Commissioner's Office. He said he wanted to shorten the chain of command. Not that it will make much difference. Tom and his pal seem to run things in Suffolk. At least the PC had some onions to send a message.
O.K, get this: The PC needs his police inspector to give him some updates on ongoing investigations in the DA office- mostly about police officers. The police inspector comes in and tells in and tells his boss that he can't give him confidential information. WHAT! I am your boss. The police inspector tells him but Tom Spota is my boss too as I am his Chief Investigator - and the questions you want answered pertain to my role as Chief Investigator. No, you can't make this crap up.
Have you seen the movie "The Departed" yet? Pretty much a view of Suffolk PD - recruit them BEFORE they become cops and steer their careers towards you. Make little campaigners for you who can round up other cops to go on the trail for you. Reward them with assignments to your detective squad when you make DA. BUT by all means DON'T allow them to do a coup and take over the Kingdom -
Tom was last seen being led by a nose ring and chain by his former witness, police inspector, and now Chief Investigator. He just doesn't know that yet - but he will - when it is too late.
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10-21-2007, 03:30 PM
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That is a horrifying story, Pete. I had never heard that and I remember the Pius case very well because I have a son who is the same age as the little boy was when he was kiled. I do recall the two brothers from that trashy family who murdered him , though. I think one of them went to jail and other other one got away with it. It was a terrible case .
I guess that's why there is no use in me complaining that a policeman's son stole coins from my home and that there is not a thing I can do about it even I did contract the DAs office.
Wasn't that Catterson who was the DA at that time, though?
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11-23-2007, 01:31 PM
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Clamboy,
I went to school with Chris Loliscio as well. I have been following his case for years and believe he was wrongly convicted. He made the mistake of trying to forge an aliby but what 19 year old would'nt do the same if the girl he was with the night before was found murdered. I truly hope he is set free someday.
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11-24-2007, 08:26 PM
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Katie Beers comes to mind
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I am a true-crime reader. Tell me about Katie Beers? thanks,
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11-25-2007, 05:05 PM
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That was a very sad and tawdry tale which our DA Catterson with the cooperation of then Editor Robert Green of Newsday, to his credit , managed to create a news embargo . Very little is known of the life that this poor little girl lived after her terrible ordeal. Finally , she was safe.
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08-02-2008, 12:38 AM
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marty didn't do it
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Originally Posted by nancy thereader
I think that Marty Tankleff is probably innocent, too. I imagine it was that scuzzy partner who disappeared the next day & changed his name.
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Not only did an article reveal that Seymour Tankleff's business partner tried to fake his death right after the killings and fled the state, but later on a teen boy came forward and said that his father Joey "Guns" Creedon bragged about killing a couple in Belle Terre back in 1988 with another guy and a third guy driving the getaway car. An investigator located the getaway driver in prison on an unrelated charge and he admitted to driving the car that night but said he thought it was going to be a routine burglary, not a murder. He said he waited for them in the car and that after that the two men burned their clothes at a home in Selden.
Marty Tankleff in the meantime pointed the finger at his father's business partner. The men said they had discussed the prospect of cutting Marty's tongue off for the business partner in exchange for money. The partner owed Marty's father half a million and was in debt.
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