Indoor ski mountain plan for Calverton (Hempstead, Levittown: low income, refinance, credit)

[sean sean sean sean]

Originally Posted by GCGuy

How can you possibly say it will not help the local economy? Jobs, tax revenues, ancillary business traffic. This is classic...people don't want taxes to raise, but don't want things being build to pay the taxes either. It can't be both ways. LI needs to realize that things need to be built or taxes will become unmanageable entirely.

I agree, we need to develop to survive, but this particular plan seems horrible to me. Like someone else pointed out, I doubt this will create any real jobs and ancillary business traffic is hit or miss...it might come, it might not. Considering how massive and self contained the resort seems, I would tend to think it's not likely that it's patrons would have to venture very far outside it's borders for all their needs.

I just think there's a whole lot more productive things that could be done with so much land.

[Joe L]

Originally Posted by thunder94

I think this topic was covered in an old thread..and I remember some one voting to put this thing in Garden City.

I second that vote!!

I 3rd it.
Yes put it in GC or Manhasset those people go for stuff like that.
Throw in a couple Lacrosse fields with scoreboards, lighting towers and PA systems too.
.....keep em at bay west of exit 50


The next time Riverhead has "New Ideas" they need to drop them in the Town Hall "suggestion box".
.......6 of them in the mens room 8 in the ladies down the hall.

-Joe

[GCGuy]

People who say put it in GC are talking nonsense. Nassau does not have 2900 acres of farmland the develop. It also doesn't have 1000s of acres of farmland and many houses on acres paying (or not) the tax bills. The East End in many ways is a resort town already. Tanger, Splish Splash, farm stands, vineyards, B & Bs, etc. At least this is more central, closer to the LIE, etc. and not on the forks themselves.

Please, there's 25 acres up for grabs in GC and they want to only put 150 townhomes. I'm trying to get a nice mixed use retail/office/condo development there...would love to see 100s of stores, a few 100,000 sq. ft. of office, and 500 plus condos. I would do it tomorrow if it was up to me.

Don't ***** about taxes when all you want is open space.

[thunder94]

Originally Posted by GCGuy

People who say put it in GC are talking nonsense. Nassau does not have 2900 acres of farmland the develop. It also doesn't have 1000s of acres of farmland and many houses on acres paying (or not) the tax bills. The East End in many ways is a resort town already. Tanger, Splish Splash, farm stands, vineyards, B & Bs, etc. At least this is more central, closer to the LIE, etc. and not on the forks themselves.

Please, there's 25 acres up for grabs in GC and they want to only put 150 townhomes. I'm trying to get a nice mixed use retail/office/condo development there...would love to see 100s of stores, a few 100,000 sq. ft. of office, and 500 plus condos. I would do it tomorrow if it was up to me.

Don't ***** about taxes when all you want is open space.

Open space? I say we cram as much crap into the smallest areas as we possibly can..why not level the Cherry Valley Golf course and add some industry there,,I, sure the fat cats can find another place to spend their time and swindeled,I mean their hard earned cash.While your at it take down GCH I heard it's for sale anyway, and add a few 100,00 sq ft office buildings and a few hundred stores.Don't worry about the traffic patterns I'm sure the big wigs have it all figured out.I'm sure all that added industry with more jobs will lessen the tax burden on the poor blue collar bum.
Who needs open spaces..we need more stupid ideas crammed down our throats that make absolutly no sense at all

[andybuildz]

Two and a half hours door to door to Hunter Mtn. Wish they had some ski buses going up there from LI like they used to.
Indoor skiing? yeh, right...it'll happen here....don't hold your breath
swooshhhhhhhhhhhh

[TheJickler]

I have to be honest. I don't know if this will help the local economy. It might, it might not. I just feel that LI is developed enough and the east end has enough traffic as is. And of course, whoever owns the land has the right to develop on it (see the Syosset mobile home story) and try to maximize profit, but it still seems like this project will not work. There's supposedly undeveloped land there; why can't it just remain as is?

[Walter Greenspan]

For those who may not be familiar with Calverton:

Named in 1868 for Bernard J. Calvert, its first postmaster, Calverton is a hamlet (unincorporated area) partly in the east part of the Town of Brookhaven and partly in the west part of the Town of Riverhead, in the central-east part of Suffolk County, along the Riverhead/Southampton town line and the Brookhaven/Southampton town line.

Beginning on the north and moving in a clockwise direction, the Hamlet of Calverton partly in the Town of Brookhaven and partly in the the Town of Riverhead is bordered on the north by the Hamlet of Wading River and the Hamlet of Baiting Hollow, Town of Riverhead; on the east by the Hamlet of Riverhead, Town of Riverhead and the Hamlet of Northampton, Town of Southampton (the Brookhaven/Southampton town line); on the south by the Hamlet of Northampton, Town of Southampton (the Riverhead/Southampton town line) and the Hamlet of Eastport, Town of Brookhaven; and, on the west by the Hamlet of Manorville, the Hamlet of Yaphank and the Hamlet of Ridge, Town of Brookhaven.

The Hamlet of Calverton has a different border than does the "Calverton, NY 11933" postal zone (i.e., a place can have a Calverton mailing address and not be in Calverton): these places that have a "Calverton, NY 11933" mailing address that are not in the Hamlet of Calverton are in the Hamlet Wading River and the Hamlet of Baiting Hollow.

[GCGuy]

Originally Posted by thunder94

Open space? I say we cram as much crap into the smallest areas as we possibly can..why not level the Cherry Valley Golf course and add some industry there,,I, sure the fat cats can find another place to spend their time and swindeled,I mean their hard earned cash.While your at it take down GCH I heard it's for sale anyway, and add a few 100,00 sq ft office buildings and a few hundred stores.Don't worry about the traffic patterns I'm sure the big wigs have it all figured out.I'm sure all that added industry with more jobs will lessen the tax burden on the poor blue collar bum.
Who needs open spaces..we need more stupid ideas crammed down our throats that make absolutly no sense at all

Hate to break it to you, but unless you start demolishing areas of I, there's always going to be traffic. Hey, I don't live out there...but I'm sure soon enough you'll be complaining about high taxes...off to North Carolina!

[GCGuy]

Originally Posted by TheJickler

I have to be honest. I don't know if this will help the local economy. It might, it might not. I just feel that LI is developed enough and the east end has enough traffic as is. And of course, whoever owns the land has the right to develop on it (see the Syosset mobile home story) and try to maximize profit, but it still seems like this project will not work. There's supposedly undeveloped land there; why can't it just remain as is?

It will for the simple fact that it will pay 10s of millions of dollars in property taxes. I think somone from the town said that this (or the full development of 2900 acres, of which at least 500 are being kept undeveloped) will account for over 10% of the entire town of Riverhead's tax base. This will help pay for all those services and put money in the coffers to buy land to preserve...keep those farm taxes down.

[Joe L]

Originally Posted by TheJickler

I have to be honest. I don't know if this will help the local economy.

Exactly..
Very few select people will see the money generated
It will end up just like the Town of North Hempsted where ethe Democrats got in and re-zoned for condos, McMansions, HUD's, shopping centers.
200 years of history and great living destroyed in 8 years.

The polititions spent all the $$ on themselves. New Benz's a $5million renovation of town hall with plush offices, flat screens.

The tax payers never saw a dime and the school tax DOUBLED, Traffic doubled TGI Fridays, Starbucks, Shopping centers, put all the mom and pops under.

These HORRIBLE Mid Eastern "imports" from N Shore LIJ hospital and "Wall Street" jerks with the cell phoned glued to the ears were the only people who could afford the $1 Million+ Condos.

The town is now just another generic piece of crap you may as well go live in Ohio or Disneyland.

Nassau county dug its own grave by overbuilding and its always the new people who vote the jerks in that do it.

-Joe