Indoor ski mountain plan for Calverton (Riverhead, Hunter: house, refrigerators, school)

[GCGuy]

I don't think I said that a racetrack is a bad idea, but this one is better. I do appreciate how you seem to focus solely on the ski portion of the development, when it's only about 15% of what's planned.

[LIMA]

Really, you need to get up to speed because the principals of RR says "the ski mountain is the main anchor, that is our main center piece attraction"

Without the ski mountain they have no shot at all. The other problem they have, well actually 2, but the meadowlands will be done long before they ever get a chance to make a little ant hill...

Because...


Since they didn't take the time to speak with the FAA as i have, there obviously not aware the FAA is not bending on the height stipulation in that area.
So there main attraction is gone...

So what is it you expect RR to be...a big hole with some water in it...right this is what we need here...some hotels and time shares for a big hole in the ground with some water...oh and a spa...or are you referring to the equestrian center they threw in there plans 2 days before the illegal auction just to kinda keep up with the Rex corp proposal

RR was chosen because that's what the civic's want to ruin any chance of ever having to worry about planes coming in there. It's all prejudice and bigotry

Though i am curious since you don't seem to care about the principals of this companies backround, and a town in the NY area going to contract with such a despicable backround...but i'll forgo that.... Usually when one say's "this is better" they can back it up with a list of reasons why..

[OhBeeHave]

Originally Posted by GCGuy

I don't think I said that a racetrack is a bad idea, but this one is better. I do appreciate how you seem to focus solely on the ski portion of the development, when it's only about 15% of what's planned.

While it might be only 15% of the project, it's 350' feet tall and will be visible from CT. Calverton is as flat as an ironing board; how can anyone make a 350' structure 'blend in' when the surrounding environment is flat?

[LIMA]

It's far more then 15% of there project...

Riverhead will have to change it's painting in town hall to one with a hill.

The FAA will not allow any structure there that tall do to there beacon to keep track of flights, they will not move it either.

So then what will RR do to attract people there, a ice skating rink....oh we have 5 of them on long island now and there not breaking any records...oh but you offer massages after ice skating and facials...sob that sold me...oh and water skiing too (if it's allowed on there lake)...oh joy...can i bring my boat, or do i have to use your's...

Lol where do you see any money coming to long island with RR insanely stupid idea..

Look up what those ski mountains make a year and compare, then take away the ski mountain.....what a bunch of blundering fools to have voted on that...read cardinales remarks...wth kind of idiot as a town supervisor say's ""Cardinale said he was "astounded" that Buckley and Wooten voted against the project. "I don't believe it's the town's job to predict whether [the ski mountain] is going to be built or not," Cardinale said. "I'm not a predictor of the future""

Bascially that is an idiot not to concerned if his town ever flourishes, im sorry, what a idiot he is...

[TristansMommy]

Originally Posted by ClarkStreetKid

It's genius, crazy or just vapor. This is the old Grumman site, right?



Town board chooses indoor ski mountain plan for Calverton property -- Newsday.com (broken link)

It's stupid stupid stupid!!! C'mon people... has anyone told any of these ding bats that we have a housing problem on LI..but they go ahead and instead of creating more affordable housing they build an indoor ski resort..

Isnt' the idea of skiing supposed to be that you're outdoors on a beautiful mountain. Geez...

[LIMA]

There is a contract for the use of the property, the problem here is not housing, the problem here is no money coming in to keep taxes down, this was one area they could have capitalized on such a problem but they blew it picking the wrong the project.

[LIMA]

Originally Posted by TristansMommy

It's stupid stupid stupid!!! C'mon people... has anyone told any of these ding bats that we have a housing problem on LI..but they go ahead and instead of creating more affordable housing they build an indoor ski resort..

Isnt' the idea of skiing supposed to be that you're outdoors on a beautiful mountain. Geez...

I don't know where on long island you live that you see a housing a shortage, but that isn't the problem...

You need the work 1st before you can fix anything else, and there won't be any work with people blocking everything that works

[TristansMommy]

Originally Posted by LIMA

I don't know where on long island you live that you see a housing a shortage, but that isn't the problem...

You need the work 1st before you can fix anything else, and there won't be any work with people blocking everything that works

There is a HUGE Affordable housing shortage on LI. Families making 80 - 100K a year (which is, ironically considered ABOVE middle class on a national average basis) are struggling to survive while working between 3 and 4 jobs between families to live in small starter homes on LI. Condo's and townhouses are just as much as a small starter home (maybe only slightly less.. but then families with kids can't really cram into an apartment condo now can they?). As for coops, there arent that many and even if they are you get bigger than 2 bedrooms you're getting pricey there too. Rental housing for the young college grads or the single couples on LI or singles on LI that do not make 80K a year (min required to just survive here) (because we all can't make 80K a year!! ) is ..well we all know about what kind of rentals are out there. .mostly illegal basement or upstairs cape apartments. I don't know where on LI YOU live thaty ou haven't noticed this!!

As for the Calverton thing.. I completeyly understand that. If they did build affordable housing they would have to build schools to accomadate the extra families that may move in and that would raise taxes... where towns with a higher commercial population DO tend to have slightly (and I do mean slightly) lower taxes.

LI needs to give companies incentive to be here.. and there is none. It's just too expensive torun their business here when they can do it for less, thereby raising their profit margin, someplace else. But it's a vicious cycle. Because cost of living is so high here, people need higher salaries to survive, so labor can get pricey. Because taxes are so high here, that is also something that deters them. If the politicians start doing something to attract rather than scare away big companies, then that's what we should do.

Although.. I think it's kind of silly.. and indoor ski mountain!! I'd rather drive like what, 2 hours to Hunter and ski on a real mountain! Although Im' not much of a skiier anyone.. lets just sy bunny slope with the funny looking inverted knee move all the way down the mountain..LOL

[LIMA]

I answered the 100k thing in the other post...

You are right the indoor ski mountain is silly, and it won't ever be, they have should have taken Rex Corps proposal went with the motorsports theme that is a proven million/billion dollar revenue maker depending on events, a single event will generate a easy 20 million for a small 2 day event.

Get the right events and possibly 2 of them and we could have been seeing anywhere from 100 mil to 400 mil for a couple or 3 events a year.
Then the business that follows it, trans, advt, food, gas, hotels and all the local business that would have gotten the extra business coming to it.

But prejudice and bigotry won that vote and we got a failed project coming with a company with terrorist and mob ties

[AnthonyNYC]

Originally Posted by GCGuy

Mountain, mountain, mountain.

You can't possibly think a race track is a better attraction that what has been proposed here. Please.

Last year I have been to the track about 30 times. By the time you pay for an entrance fee ($20-$40), gas ($100), tolls food etc you spend an average of $150-200 per instance. Now, I wanted to go a lot more but with 2 kids and a house on Long Island and the wife a stay at home mom, you have to balance everything carefully.

I am not the only one that finds themselves at Etown or Island testing or Atco 30 times a year. There are a ton of us that go and will fit in a test and tune before Thanksgiving. In the motorsports area the guys are dedicated and will go time and time again, over and over. They made a huge mistake not bringing back a track to Long Island.

I budget myself to spend at least $4000-5000 in racing yearly and a LOT of guys have a MUCH larger budget. I just invested in an enclosed trailer as well. You would not believe how many people are really dedicated to racing their little cars down a quarter mile. The closest tracks are 2 - 4 hours away and we go there, in traffic most of the time to have a few hours of fun. Now imagine if there was a track 30 minutes away from me! We had a discussion the other day, I asked a bunch of my buddies if you would donate $1000.00 to build a track in Long Island. Everyone said yes. Think of how much I spent last year, take my situation and multiply it by a few thousand and that is the revenue Riverhead is losing.

Anthony