North Amityville - truly unsafe? (Levittown, Howard: condo, travel, income)

[AnthonyNYC]

Originally Posted by teenerz

Ok, I've searched the forums and basically read that Amityville, especially North Amityville, is bad. I guess I just wanted to post in the hopes that I would get some different insight than what I've already read LOL (silly I know!). I am co-op/condo hunting and did look at a unit in N. Amityville, just north of Sunrise Hwy. I fell in love with the unit itself and the complex grounds are nice, but I am nervous about the area since it has such a bad reputation. I didn't drive around the area extensively - just up and down a few streets. Some of the houses were quite nice, but some were very run down. I am female and would be living there alone. Should I totally rule it out? I just want to feel comfortable and be safe. Any advice or input would be appreciated!

It's a pretty bad area. When I lived in Massapequa I would use route 110 to get to work. On the way home from work I would stop by there to get gas and it is not a place you want to be at night.

Talking with the gas station attendants, they agree 100% it's not a safe place. They have been robbed a few times already. The trailer homes surrounding the gas stations do not help either. If you don't believe me, stop by there at night and you will see for yourself.

I have seen the condos by the fire house but I am not sure about them. I am all over New York, I have friends who own businesses in Jamaica Queens and I feel safer in Jamaica Queens, in the industrial area tha I do on Route 110 (North Amityville) at night.

What I am saying has nothing to do with race, it's a lower income area where the trailer parks are. I have seen both blacks and whites there walking around, all shady.

Anthony

[omigawd]

It depends where in "North Amityville" you're talking about. Like the other poster said, those condos on Sunrise near South Oaks is a nice area (near the Sunrise Mall). However, those are for Senior Citizens.

Driving up Route 110 will NOT give you feel of the neighborhood. I think you should drive through the area you're considering buying in. Drive on your block and the surrounding areas to see what it's like. Go there during the week in the daytime and at night (after 8pm) and also on weekend days and nights after 9pm (especially Friday/Saturday).

There are parts of "North Amityville" that are "OK" and other parts that are crappy and disgusting.

Oh, and if you have kids, you'll probably want to send them to a private school because the Amityville schools aren't that great.

[Walter Greenspan]

Originally Posted by teenerz

I am co-op/condo hunting and did look at a unit in N. Amityville, just north of Sunrise Hwy.

As Smash255 points out, "That area is actually Amityville ... "


For those who may not be familiar with Amityville:

Amityville is a village (incorporated in 1894) in the southwest part of the Town of Babylon, in the southwest part of Suffolk County (along the Babylon/Oyster Bay town line and the Suffolk/Nassau County line).

Beginning on the north and moving in a clockwise direction, the Village of Amityville in the Town of Babylon is bordered on the north by the Hamlet of North Amityville; on the east by the Hamlet of Copiague; on the south by the Great South Bay; and, on the west by the Hamlet of East Massapequa in the town of Oyster Bay, Nassau County (the Babylon/Oyster Bay town line and the Suffolk/Nassau County line).

Amityville is one of those many villages and hamlets on Long Island where the majority of places with the community name as part of their mailing address are not in the village: places that have an "Amityville, NY 11701" mailing address that are not in the Village of Amityville are in the Hamlet of Copiague and the Hamlet of North Amityville in the Town of Babylon and in the Hamlet of East Massapequa in the Town of Oyster Bay, Nassau County.






For a good set of town-by-town maps showing all the villages and hamlets in each of LI's 13 towns (3 in Nassau County and 10 in Suffolk County):

Excellent Long Island Geographic Resource

[Walter Greenspan]

For those who may not be familiar with North Amityville:

North Amityville is a hamlet (an unincorporated area) in the southwest part of the Town of Babylon, in the southwest part of Suffolk County (along the Babylon/Oyster Bay town line and the Suffolk/Nassau County line).

Beginning on the north and moving in a clockwise direction, the Hamlet of North Amityville in the Town of Babylon is bordered on the north by the Hamlet of East Farmingdale; on the east by the Hamlet of North Lindenhurst and the Village of Lindenhurst; on the south by the Hamlet of Copiague and the Village of Amityville; and, on the west by the Hamlet of East Massapequa and the Hamlet of South Farmingdale in the Town of Oyster Bay, Nassau County (the Babylon/Oyster Bay town line and the Suffolk/Nassau County line).


North Amityville is one of those many villages and hamlets on Long Island where none of the places in the community have the hamlet name as part of their mailing address: places in the Hamlet of North Amityville have an "Amityville, NY 11701" mailing address





For a good set of town-by-town maps showing all the villages and hamlets in each of LI's 13 towns (3 in Nassau County and 10 in Suffolk County):

Excellent Long Island Geographic Resource

[AnthonyNYC]

Originally Posted by omigawd

It depends where in "North Amityville" you're talking about. Like the other poster said, those condos on Sunrise near South Oaks is a nice area (near the Sunrise Mall). However, those are for Senior Citizens.

Driving up Route 110 will NOT give you feel of the neighborhood. I think you should drive through the area you're considering buying in. Drive on your block and the surrounding areas to see what it's like. Go there during the week in the daytime and at night (after 8pm) and also on weekend days and nights after 9pm (especially Friday/Saturday).

There are parts of "North Amityville" that are "OK" and other parts that are crappy and disgusting.

Oh, and if you have kids, you'll probably want to send them to a private school because the Amityville schools aren't that great.

You're right, driving through 110 will not give you a feel of the entire neighborhood. Good advice on driving around the immediate area.

Anthony

[newtoli]

Originally Posted by AnthonyNYC

It's a pretty bad area. When I lived in Massapequa I would use route 110 to get to work. On the way home from work I would stop by there to get gas and it is not a place you want to be at night.

Talking with the gas station attendants, they agree 100% it's not a safe place. They have been robbed a few times already. The trailer homes surrounding the gas stations do not help either. If you don't believe me, stop by there at night and you will see for yourself.

I have seen the condos by the fire house but I am not sure about them. I am all over New York, I have friends who own businesses in Jamaica Queens and I feel safer in Jamaica Queens, in the industrial area tha I do on Route 110 (North Amityville) at night.

What I am saying has nothing to do with race, it's a lower income area where the trailer parks are. I have seen both blacks and whites there walking around, all shady.

Anthony

I stop to get gas/food/etc all the time on 110 on my way to the Southern State, at night. I'm a woman in my mid-20's. Are there shady people? Yes, not TONS of them. Do I feel unsafe? Not really, but I'm the type of person always keeping an eye out.

To compare N Amityville and Jamacia, Queens is crazy. N Amityville can be crappy, but I don't feel unsafe stopping for gas for christsakes.

But - I totally agree on the school situation. The HS is thugged out (I say this not in a racist manner at all, thuggish white/black/hispanic kids are ALWAYS all around the front of the HS and the 7/11), if I had kids, I wouldn't send them there.

[AnthonyNYC]

Originally Posted by newtoli

Are there shady people? Yes. Do I feel unsafe? Not really...

Good point, there's no reason to feel unsafe around shady people.

Anthony

[newtoli]

There are shady people everywhere. I've never felt like I'm going to get raped/mugged/murdered/assaulted, lets up it that way.

Then again, I don't walk down the main drag with my purse wide open looking around wide eyed or anything. To someone w/ no street smarts, maybe they would have a different opinion of the area. Stopping for gas or at a convienience store on 110 has never scared me, and I do it all the time.

For LI, I guess you could consider N Amityville crappy, but as compared to real ghettos? I'd rather drive through N Amityville that ENY or Bed-Stuy.

[newtoli]

For your reference, here is the Police Blotter that covers N Amityville crime (including Copaigue)

POLICE BLOTTER

[AnthonyNYC]

Originally Posted by newtoli

For your reference, here is the Police Blotter that covers N Amityville crime (including Copaigue)

POLICE BLOTTER

I am not some kid who's not street smart, I'm probably more street smart than 99% of the people on here. It's not a safe area.

Here's the direct link or you can read below.
SCPD Violent Crime Initiative Takes 15 Guns and Over 250 Rounds of Ammo Off the Streets in Wyandanch and North Amityville

SCPD Violent Crime Initiative Takes 15 Guns and Over 250 Rounds of Ammo Off the Streets in Wyandanch and North Amityville

Suffolk County Executive Steve Levy, Police Commissioner Richard Dormer and Suffolk County Legislator Elie Mystal this week announced the Police Department's First Precinct has seized 15 guns and over 250 rounds of weapons – and have made 14 arrests – as part of an ongoing initiative against gun violence and gang activity in the Wyandanch and North Amityville communities.