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This is the mindset that is holding Long Island back! I'm not saying to build high rises-- but we can use the model to incorporate smart growth on Long Island.
Housing will never be affordable the soon folks figure that out the better
and like i said whats the point of living in the place were you grew up if you can't even recognize it .
There is little opportunity for those not interested in purchasing a home (for whatever reason) to rent anywhere in Nassau County, legally, and, without paying through the nose. It's unfortunate.
New development in Nassau County, in general, has been quite limited; for this targeted population, it's practically nonexistent.
I asked in the other NIMBY thread a while back where all of your young adult and adult children live right now--At home till 30+? Still in Long Island? Out of state?
I'm very interested in seeing how the housing market in Nassau County changes over time, especially as the baby boomer population fades out.
This is the mindset that is holding Long Island back! I'm not saying to build high rises-- but we can use the model to incorporate smart growth on Long Island.
Long Island is long past the chance at smart growth and now has to make the best of a tough reality. Really, how can the Island grow? Land is at a premium, it's geography forces expansion in only one direction, power is expensive and industry greatly reduced from it's peak. I think the only chance for smart growth of any kind is toward the Eastern part of the Island where there is still land to play with. Maybe Wang should have tried the Lighthouse Project in the middle of Suffolk instead of Nassau.
Long Island is long past the chance at smart growth and now has to make the best of a tough reality. Really, how can the Island grow? Land is at a premium, it's geography forces expansion in only one direction, power is expensive and industry greatly reduced from it's peak. I think the only chance for smart growth of any kind is toward the Eastern part of the Island where there is still land to play with. Maybe Wang should have tried the Lighthouse Project in the middle of Suffolk instead of Nassau.
Amazing most places cherish land here we just drop a condo on it and why does suffolk need that idiotic
lighthouse crap the whole point of living in suffolk is to not be like nassau .
I just turned 30 too and I always wonder the same thing!! I'm from LI and I work in the city but would love a place on LI because the city is too expensive/dirty/crazy. I'm currently back at home (and commuting) because I'm simply not willing to spend 1200/mo to live in someone's basement (but I'm more than willing to spend more than that on something nice). I'd rather contribute that money to helping my family out. I know that I'm not going to be able to live here forever, however, I have no desire to get married and have kids and unless your income is ridiculously high, it's next to impossible to buy a home on Long Island with one income. You'd be surprised how many people there are just like me!! I know a ton of people on Long Island in their 20s and 30s who are educated, employed, motivated, functional members of society and are living in their parents homes because of the severe lack of decent housing options there are for young professionals. We actually talk about this topic a lot and we all wish that there was some kind of nice, reasonably priced apartment complex somewhere like Babylon Village that catered to young adults. There are hardly ANY apartment complexes around here and the majority of the ones that do exist are either for seniors or are overpriced and not very nice.
In a way I can somewhat understand the NIMBY mentality because Long Island can very easily be completely destroyed by too much development. It's especially vulnerable because of it's proximity to NYC, so we do have to be very careful. One of my favorite things about Long Island is the amount of green space, the parks and the beautiful beaches so I would hate to see any of that threatened. Long Island has so much natural beauty that definitely needs to be preserved.
Having said that, the lack of housing options for young adults who aren't financially ready or don't want to purchase houses is very sad. Most of us, especially the single ones, feel completely out of place, but at the same time want to stay here (because of family, friends, easy commute to NYC, beaches...etc), so we're in a constant state of conflict. What ultimately happens for many of us is that we end up being forced out. That's what happened to my siblings who moved to the south (and absolutely hate it). It has also happened to a bunch of my friends and they all wish they could afford to come back to LI. So what is going to happen is that young people are going to keep being forced out. Hopefully as the NIMBYs keep losing their children to the Carolinas, Florida, Pennsylvania, Arizona, Colorado...etc., they will finally realize that building apartment complexes or condo communities in commuter towns (like Babylon Village) that cater to the young adult population wouldn't be such a bad idea!! Also, the amount of money that young professionals would spend in the bars, restaurants, and shops would stimulate the local economy like crazy!!
I hope something like this happens soon!! I know it will never happen, but I can dream.
There are so few places for young adults single or married to live on the Island. So many live with their parents when they are just starting out. Other get down payment assistance. I feel sorry those who get neither one.
That's great for y'all. I didn't go to college. I learned a trade right out of HS. I was lucky enough to live at my parents for 5 years after HS. I saved up but, could have sacrificed more. At 23 I had 30% down payment for a house. I worked long days and sometimes 7 days a week. 12 years later I see people are getting softer by the day. No one needs to sacrifice nowadays.
Oy vay. Another one who lived at home and saved calling other people "soft" and saying they don't know how to sacrifice. It cracks me up. Give me 5 years rent free (or cheap) and I'll "sacrifice" my way into a down payment too.
I realize from your posts that part of your frustration is because you did something responsible and steady for your age group that is outside the norm and is very admirable. However, many of us came up from nothing with no parental home to live in and still worked our way up to buying on LI. Your story is less indicative of the norm. It's inspiring that you have a strong family legacy on LI and are a go-getter. I can appreciate that. It reminds me of growing up in the boroughs where family was a big deal. To me, your story on LI is less of the norm but a little of a throwback to the past (in a good way). Now families are drifting apart and the problems are causing economic migratory shifts of wealth OFF the island. It is not just about "population #'s" but about per capita income, job #'s, commercial RE and sales taxes, business starts, etc. All of which are falling dramatically, particularly in Nassau.
Amazing most places cherish land here we just drop a condo on it and why does suffolk need that idiotic
lighthouse crap the whole point of living in suffolk is to not be like nassau .
It was just an example. If you're going to build a large multi-purpose project then build where the population density is lower and try to attract business and workers to the East instead of always West. If successful it could open up job options for people who can't afford Nassau and the idea of a 70+ mile commute to the city is too much.
Oy vay. Another one who lived at home and saved calling other people "soft" and saying they don't know how to sacrifice. It cracks me up. Give me 5 years rent free (or cheap) and I'll "sacrifice" my way into a down payment too.
I realize from your posts that part of your frustration is because you did something responsible and steady for your age group that is outside the norm and is very admirable. However, many of us came up from nothing with no parental home to live in and still worked our way up to buying on LI. Your story is less indicative of the norm. It's inspiring that you have a strong family legacy on LI and are a go-getter. I can appreciate that. It reminds me of growing up in the boroughs where family was a big deal. To me, your story on LI is less of the norm but a little of a throwback to the past (in a good way). Now families are drifting apart and the problems are causing economic migratory shifts of wealth OFF the island. It is not just about "population #'s" but about per capita income, job #'s, commercial RE and sales taxes, business starts, etc. All of which are falling dramatically, particularly in Nassau.
I understand what your saying. Not everyone is as lucky to have a family that loves them as much as mine. My family has been on LI for 29 years, hardly a legacy. My parents taught me though from a very young age that anything I wanted I'd have to earn. I was 1 of 4 kids and my father was a lone earner with a 8th grade education. Spare me the sarcasm on the sacrifice as I have been buying my own luxuries since I'm 10 years old. Long island has always been expensive and highly taxed. The youth may be leaving but, the hungry immigrant will be taking thier place. Don't worry LI is not gonna turn into a ghost town no matter how many times it's said.
I understand what your saying. Not everyone is as lucky to have a family that loves them as much as mine. My family has been on LI for 29 years, hardly a legacy. My parents taught me though from a very young age that anything I wanted I'd have to earn. I was 1 of 4 kids and my father was a lone earner with a 8th grade education. Spare me the sarcasm on the sacrifice as I have been buying my own luxuries since I'm 10 years old. Long island has always been expensive and highly taxed. The youth may be leaving but, the hungry immigrant will be taking thier place. Don't worry LI is not gonna turn into a ghost town no matter how many times it's said.
You contradict yourself. Buying "your own luxuries" is different than buying your own food and rent. Having a family "that loves them" is not the same as having a family with the means to support them financially. I love the hungry immigrants that are coming in. The Asian, Indian and Latino population are great neighbors and are helping sustain the home prices in my area. The kid's sports teams I coach are almost as multicultural they were in Brooklyn. That is amazing and ok by me.
The point of the original post is about APARTMENTS for younger people, not about lucky younger people who are "loved enough" to live at home and save for a down payment. My points continue to be that we need apartments near train stations and walkable "downtowns." I don't care about your supposed "sacrifice." I care about the 20 something WITHOUT Mom and Dad's help who gets a good job in the city (or better yet on the Island) having a reasonable place to live he can get to work from so he stays here, pays taxes here, opens a business here, buys a house here and ultimately raises a family here.
That you are so holier than thou to think every 20-30 something is too "soft" to buy a house is sad. That anyone without an overpriced overtaxed LI home doesn't know about "earning." Grow up. Count your lucky stars you had a stepping stone. Not everyone did or does. And LI costs were not nearly as high vs income as they are now. $50k 20 years ago went a much much longer way than it does now. A lone earner with an 8th grade education could do well back then. That's a pipe dream and a half now. Yes, you were lucky AND you worked hard. Have a little humility and stop being so defensive.
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