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Trustees of the Long Island Power Authority voted on Wednesday to erect two 100-foot wind turbines at the 47-acre site of the long-defunct Shoreham nuclear power plant ... They will generate enough electricity to power 20 to 25 average homes.
Better come up with a good way to get the spent fuel rods off of Long Island and through NYC.
You're only about 20 years behind current events ... not to mention that the amount of spent fuel was miniscule in comparison to working nuclear power plants due to the fact that the plant never operated and provided power. But, by all means, carry on and entertain us ... LOL!
That project was completed in 1994.
It did not go "through" NYC. Why would anyone even think it would need to? If you look at a map, you will see that the Shoreham plant is directly on LI Sound.
The slightly irradiated fuel rods were tranported by barge, and then rail, to Limerick in Philly, PA. That was the extent of the spent fuel. Again, Shoreham never actually generated power. It operated intermittently for testing, but for less than 2 days.
Excerp from the Newsday article. There is not one engineer of energy professional on the board, at least Hervey is an electrical engineer but very few real professionals even on the executive staff.
They actually removed the detailed bios for the board of trustees since yesterday, all they have is the appointment date and the politician who appointed them. Really too late to do anything to do now but hopefully people have long memories and write their representatives, by the way the NYS legislature is going to raise their salaries for a job well done.
"Little outside oversight
LIPA is run by a 15-member board of nonutility professionals that includes lawyers, bankers and accountants. There is little outside oversight. That contrasts with other privately owned utilities subject to regulation by the state Public Service Department, which has hundreds of professional energy experts, rate reviewers and other specialists.
As a result, LIPA operates largely free from independent scrutiny of its rates, its spending and its management effectiveness. The LIPA board tends to act in concert. Most of its decisions on spending, strategic directions and contracts are unanimous."
Excerp from the Newsday article. There is not one engineer of energy professional on the board, at least Hervey is an electrical engineer but very few real professionals even on the executive staff.
They actually removed the detailed bios for the board of trustees since yesterday, all they have is the appointment date and the politician who appointed them. Really too late to do anything to do now but hopefully people have long memories and write their representatives, by the way the NYS legislature is going to raise their salaries for a job well done.
"Little outside oversight
LIPA is run by a 15-member board of nonutility professionals that includes lawyers, bankers and accountants. There is little outside oversight. That contrasts with other privately owned utilities subject to regulation by the state Public Service Department, which has hundreds of professional energy experts, rate reviewers and other specialists.
As a result, LIPA operates largely free from independent scrutiny of its rates, its spending and its management effectiveness. The LIPA board tends to act in concert. Most of its decisions on spending, strategic directions and contracts are unanimous."
I read the post yesterday about LIPA's unqualified Board (yours, I think?), and then I mimicked it on Newday's Comments sections for a couple of their LIPA articles. Got a few outraged responses. I hope the LIPA CLOWNS read them.
Heck, I know that. I was around. Someone suggested nuclear power and that's what I was responding to.
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Originally Posted by I_Love_LI_but
You're only about 20 years behind current events ... not to mention that the amount of spent fuel was miniscule in comparison to working nuclear power plants due to the fact that the plant never operated and provided power. But, by all means, carry on and entertain us ... LOL!
That project was completed in 1994.
It did not go "through" NYC. Why would anyone even think it would need to? If you look at a map, you will see that the Shoreham plant is directly on LI Sound.
The slightly irradiated fuel rods were tranported by barge, and then rail, to Limerick in Philly, PA. That was the extent of the spent fuel. Again, Shoreham never actually generated power. It operated intermittently for testing, but for less than 2 days.
Excerp from the Newsday article. There is not one engineer of energy professional on the board, at least Hervey is an electrical engineer but very few real professionals even on the executive staff.
They actually removed the detailed bios for the board of trustees since yesterday, all they have is the appointment date and the politician who appointed them. Really too late to do anything to do now but hopefully people have long memories and write their representatives, by the way the NYS legislature is going to raise their salaries for a job well done.
"Little outside oversight
LIPA is run by a 15-member board of nonutility professionals that includes lawyers, bankers and accountants. There is little outside oversight. That contrasts with other privately owned utilities subject to regulation by the state Public Service Department, which has hundreds of professional energy experts, rate reviewers and other specialists.
As a result, LIPA operates largely free from independent scrutiny of its rates, its spending and its management effectiveness. The LIPA board tends to act in concert. Most of its decisions on spending, strategic directions and contracts are unanimous."
“A lot of people who live on Long Island today don’t even know what LILCO was, let alone Shoreham,” says Richard Kessel, former president and CEO of LIPA, who is now head of the New York Power Authority (NYPA). The Merrick resident began his career in public utilities by protesting Shoreham and was eventually handed the keys to the plant after LILCO was sold to LIPA.
Un-freaking-real!
Richard Kessel began his career in public utilities by protesting Shoreham.
What happens?
He's handed the keys to LIPA!
Now he's kicked even further up the ladder and he's the head of the NY Power Authority.
***thought to self***
Maybe if I quit my job to become a Professional Gadfly, I will be handed a cushy job running things I have no experience in ... just because they want to shut me up!
When it was in the papers years ago I thought Long Islanders were silly to build a nuclear plant and not use it. However, after the disaster in Japan I've changed my thinking. And after moving to Long Island and going through Irene and Sandy I am absolutely, positively sure that LIPA (or its predecessor) could not have safely run the reactor. Even if they could manage day to day operations (I doubt it), one solid storm surge (remember the 15 foot waves on the sound last week?) could have resulted in nuclear disaster for us.
I am so grateful to all of the linemen and treetrimmers out there trying to restore power. My question to LIPA is "Why in the world are you putting the lines back up? BURY THEM YOU MORONS." OK, not just a question. Ran out of poles? They wouldn't need poles if the lines were underground. Too lazy to trim the trees in between the storms? They wouldn't need to trim trees if the lines were undeground. Sheesh.
When it was in the papers years ago I thought Long Islanders were silly to build a nuclear plant and not use it. However, after the disaster in Japan I've changed my thinking. And after moving to Long Island and going through Irene and Sandy I am absolutely, positively sure that LIPA (or its predecessor) could not have safely run the reactor. Even if they could manage day to day operations (I doubt it), one solid storm surge (remember the 15 foot waves on the sound last week?) could have resulted in nuclear disaster for us.
I am so grateful to all of the linemen and treetrimmers out there trying to restore power. My question to LIPA is "Why in the world are you putting the lines back up? BURY THEM YOU MORONS." OK, not just a question. Ran out of poles? They wouldn't need poles if the lines were underground. Too lazy to trim the trees in between the storms? They wouldn't need to trim trees if the lines were undeground. Sheesh.
A storm like Sandy is a complete joke compared to an earthquake and a tsunami tidal wave.
U.S. nuclear facilities are built to withstand extreme flooding and hurricane-force winds, which are the worst things that happen around here. 15 foot waves are child's play for nuclear facilities.
What happened in the nuclear facilities nearest us during Sandy:
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New York:
Indian Point 2—continued operating at 100 percent power
Indian Point 3—manual safe shut down from 100 percent power on Oct. 30 due to an electric grid disruption
Connecticut:
Millstone 2—shut down for refueling outage
Millstone 3—safely reduced power from 100 percent to 75 percent on Oct. 29 at the request of the electric grid operator
I'm surprised you live on LI! Didn't you know there's an operating nuclear power plant across LI Sound from us in CT (located directly ON LI Sound) and one slightly upstate in NY? Both of them would affect LI if they had a nuclear disaster. Better move!
The reason LIPA will not bury the electric lines: Unlike NYC, we do not have a pre-existing system of VERY LARGE tunnels (subway tunnels, steam tunnels, etc.). Unlike NYC, solid ROCK is not what is underneath Long Island to support very large tunnels. Verizon may be burying Fios lines, but transmitting electricity is a whole different animal. It cannot just be "buried." It needs solid tunnels and large ones at that. I cannot even imagine how many billions it would take to build a large enough, collapse-proof tunnel system for LI's electricity.
Last edited by I_Love_LI_but; 11-09-2012 at 05:17 PM..
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