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Old 11-28-2012, 02:13 PM
 
Location: under the beautiful Carolina blue
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How did an area go from good to bad? I always wondered that...

and can that be reversed? any examples of that happening in the past?
I don't remember that area ever being "good" - probably was OK at one time but Railroad Ave was always industrial.

As of right now anyone who would care about that area no longer lives there. Crime is truly rampant. First they put up that school and then they put up the projects and that was that.

They were able to bring back the Big H shopping center a bit though. have to give them credit for that.
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Old 11-28-2012, 04:34 PM
 
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Instead of closing the school down I think they should've build a police station in the area instead.
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Old 11-28-2012, 05:08 PM
 
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Instead of closing the school down I think they should've build a police station in the area instead.
There's a police outpost less than a mile up Route 110. The police can't be everywhere; they did post a cop at the school during the day but the school was closed when bullet holes were found in the building.

My sister got pulled over not far away when she lived in NY for going thru a red light. The cop asked her what she was doing and she goes "look at where we are"....he let her go.

I used to have to pass thru the area to get to a friend's house and I would stop at red lights late at night, check around, and then go. I wouldn't even do that in Hempstead.
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Old 11-28-2012, 09:40 PM
 
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No - they are trying to make it an attractive schooling option to get enough kids in there to justify re-opening it. Magnets are not about chaning the surrounding area, they are about getting kids into the seats at schools in such areas.

That neighborhood...that whole area... has been BAD for 40 years. It's NOT going to change. Not sure if you are familiar with the area but it's right across 110, and just a little north, from the Huntington LIRR station.

My guess is the backstory is that they are getting pushback from the state, possibly federal gov't, to re-open a school in that area, as kids who live around there are being bused quite a distance. The reason I went there for only kindy was that Huntington was told "desegregate" in 1973, so they had to move kids all around. Keep in mind the Huntington school district #3 serves kids who live near Jack Abrams, as well as the children of multi millionaires who live in Huntington Bay and everyone in between. It is a VERY diverse district, racially, religiously and socio economically.
Cart before the horse.

How many parents would consider an 'attractive' schooling option in a neighborhood with enough gun violence to necessitate 'shot spotter'?

Here's your backpack and your bullet proof vest, Gwendolyn. Now kiss mummy buh-bye before you head off to Fort Apache.
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Old 11-28-2012, 09:56 PM
 
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There's a police outpost less than a mile up Route 110. .
That was closed a few years ago...
The closest one is the 2nd precinct building on Park Ave, just north of Jericho Tpk.
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Old 11-29-2012, 05:41 AM
 
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That area was a problem in the 80's when I was a custodian at Hunt El. They need to do what Bay Shore Schools did ten years ago-buy the homes around the schools and knock them down. They did this to a dozen homes adjacent to high school and few next to Middle School and built sports fields. Problems become positives.Residents were given a chance to vote on doing this and it passed easily.
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Old 11-29-2012, 05:46 AM
 
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That area was a problem in the 80's when I was a custodian at Hunt El. They need to do what Bay Shore Schools did ten years ago-buy the homes around the schools and knock them down. They did this to a dozen homes adjacent to high school and few next to Middle School and built sports fields. Problems become positives.Residents were given a chance to vote on doing this and it passed easily.
Knock down the projects?! Bite your tongue!
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Old 11-29-2012, 05:48 AM
 
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Cart before the horse.

How many parents would consider an 'attractive' schooling option in a neighborhood with enough gun violence to necessitate 'shot spotter'?

Here's your backpack and your bullet proof vest, Gwendolyn. Now kiss mummy buh-bye before you head off to Fort Apache.
I agree. I'm still trying to figure out who the parents are who think it was a travesty the school was closed. But that's the LI parent mentality - they'd rather have their kids have 2 less kids in a class in a dangerous school than have 2 more kids in a safe school. They say Woodhull is overcrowded; I would be curious to hear the census numbers for it because I went to 6th grade there and it comfortably held over 400 kids back then.
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Old 11-29-2012, 10:37 AM
 
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I agree. I'm still trying to figure out who the parents are who think it was a travesty the school was closed. But that's the LI parent mentality - they'd rather have their kids have 2 less kids in a class in a dangerous school than have 2 more kids in a safe school. They say Woodhull is overcrowded; I would be curious to hear the census numbers for it because I went to 6th grade there and it comfortably held over 400 kids back then.
Within my own district I've noticed more classroom space being dedicated to computer labs, social worker's office, reading resource room, science labs -- at the elementary level. Removing classrooms from general use doesn't help.

Looking at the area JA school is in and taking into consideration the vast number of rentals (which are probably overcrowded with "immigrants" and their children) and combine that with aforementioned specialized rooms, as well as unfunded state mandated programs requiring special space, the school could easily be overcrowded.
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Old 11-29-2012, 10:40 AM
 
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That was closed a few years ago...
The closest one is the 2nd precinct building on Park Ave, just north of Jericho Tpk.
Its funny it just so happens crime went UP when they closed it.
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