Imaginary Towns on Long Island /Real or Fancied/Town vs Area...You Decide. (New York: house, taxes)

[sean sean sean sean]

Originally Posted by OhBeeHave

Strike the Village of the Branch from your list. It is an Inc Village, according to their website: http://www.villageofthebranch.net/ It goes back to 2/25/1927

Add Plainedge -- it's a geographical area.

Munsey Park is an Inc Village of 3000 residents http://www.munseypark.org/

A lot of them really shouldn't be on there but I have a feeling they will be anyway haha....I'm not exactly sure what the criteria is to be a "fake town" but I'm gonna try to explain all of them....

SUFFOLK

South Setauket - Neighborhood in the hamlet of Centereach.

North Coram - Neighborhood in the hamlet of Coram.

San Remo - Neighborhood in the hamlet of Kings Park. Think this was formerly a hamlet, but I'm not sure.

Scotts Beach - Neighborhood in the hamlet of Sound Beach.

Tangiers - Neighborhood in the hamlet of Shirley. Comes from a housing development built there around 1910...which may predate the name "Shirley".

Smiths Point - I think this is an older name for what is now the hamlet of Mastic Beach.

E Yaphank - Never heard of this but I'm guessing it's just a fancy name for the neighborhood between South Haven Park and Brookhaven Airport (which is in the hamlet of Shirley).

Manor Park - Neighborhood in the hamlet of Mastic, I think located between Sunrise and Montauk Highway. Another one that might be an old development.

Roanoake - First colonial settlement in what is now the United States. Killed by indians. (Joking...I've never heard of this!)

Islandia - Village in the Town of Islip, incorporated in 1985.

South Amityville - Neighborhood in the village of Amityville, south of Montauk Highway.

Old Medford - Neighborhood in (I'm assuming) the hamlet of Medford.

Old East Northport - Neighborhood in the hamlet of East Northport. According to another poster, it's the numbered streets.

Hagerman - Former hamlet that was absorbed by the hamlet of East Patchogue sometime between 1990 and 2000.

Upton - Mailing address of Brookhaven National Laboratories. Former WWI army outpost and possibly a hamlet at one time.

Edgewood - No clue but I'm guessing the neighborhood close to the old Edgewood State Hospital in the hamlet of Deer Park?

Crab Meadow - An older name for the Northport area, and I guess a neighborhood near the Crab Meadow Golf Course?

Pinelawn - Cemetery in the hamlet of East Farmingdale.

Deer Hills - Neighborhood in (I'm assuming) the north part of the hamlet of Deer Park.

Strongs Neck - Neighborhood in the hamlet of Setauket-East Setauket. Also a peninsula. In olden times "Neck" was a synonym for "owned land".

South Hauppauge - Neighborhood in the hamlet of Hauppauge, south of the LIE.

South Greenlawn - Neighborhood in the hamlet of Greenlawn that has the 11743 (Huntington) zip code.

North Brentwood - I guess the north section of the hamlet of Brentwood?

Lakeland - Former hamlet in what is now Ronkonkoma...I think this is the name of the fire department that covers this area too.

Lake Hills - Neighborhood in the hamlet of Ronkonkoma, formerly part of Lakeland.

Village of the Branch - Village in the Town of Smithtown, incorporated in 1927.

Terryville - Hamlet in the Town of Brookhaven.


NASSAU

East Hills - Village in the Town of North Hempstead, incorporated in 1931.

Munsey Hill - Never heard of this, I think you meant Munsey Park.

Lattingtown - Village in the Town of Oyster Bay, incorporated in 1931.

Muttontown - Village in the Town of Oyster Bay, incorporated in 1931.

Matinecock - Village in the Town of Oyster Bay, incorporated in 1928.

Mandalay - Neighborhood in the hamlet of Wantagh.

Colony Bay - Neighborhood in the hamlet of Baldwin Harbor.

Lakeview - Hamlet in the Town of Hempstead.

Garden City Park - Hamlet in the Town of North Hempstead.

Stewart Manor - Village in the Town of Hempstead, incorporated in 1927.

Flower Hill - Village in the Town of North Hempstead, incorporated in 1931.

Munsey Park - Village in the Town of North Hempstead, incorporated in 1930.

Thomaston - Village in the Town of North Hempstead, incorporated in 1931.

Malverne Park-Oaks - Hamlet in the Town of Hempstead.

South Hempstead - Hamlet in the Town of Hempstead.

Got any more?

[clamboy]

Originally Posted by sean sean sean sean

A lot of them really shouldn't be on there but I have a feeling they will be anyway haha....I'm not exactly sure what the criteria is to be a "fake town" but I'm gonna try to explain all of them....

SUFFOLK

South Setauket - Neighborhood in the hamlet of Centereach.

North Coram - Neighborhood in the hamlet of Coram.

San Remo - Neighborhood in the hamlet of Kings Park. Think this was formerly a hamlet, but I'm not sure.

Scotts Beach - Neighborhood in the hamlet of Sound Beach.

Tangiers - Neighborhood in the hamlet of Shirley. Comes from a housing development built there around 1910...which may predate the name "Shirley".

Smiths Point - I think this is an older name for what is now the hamlet of Mastic Beach.

E Yaphank - Never heard of this but I'm guessing it's just a fancy name for the neighborhood between South Haven Park and Brookhaven Airport (which is in the hamlet of Shirley).

Manor Park - Neighborhood in the hamlet of Mastic, I think located between Sunrise and Montauk Highway. Another one that might be an old development.

Roanoake - First colonial settlement in what is now the United States. Killed by indians. (Joking...I've never heard of this!)

Islandia - Village in the Town of Islip, incorporated in 1985.

South Amityville - Neighborhood in the village of Amityville, south of Montauk Highway.

Old Medford - Neighborhood in (I'm assuming) the hamlet of Medford.

Old East Northport - Neighborhood in the hamlet of East Northport. According to another poster, it's the numbered streets.

Hagerman - Former hamlet that was absorbed by the hamlet of East Patchogue sometime between 1990 and 2000.

Upton - Mailing address of Brookhaven National Laboratories. Former WWI army outpost and possibly a hamlet at one time.

Edgewood - No clue but I'm guessing the neighborhood close to the old Edgewood State Hospital in the hamlet of Deer Park?

Crab Meadow - An older name for the Northport area, and I guess a neighborhood near the Crab Meadow Golf Course?

Pinelawn - Cemetery in the hamlet of East Farmingdale.

Deer Hills - Neighborhood in (I'm assuming) the north part of the hamlet of Deer Park.

Strongs Neck - Neighborhood in the hamlet of Setauket-East Setauket. Also a peninsula. In olden times "Neck" was a synonym for "owned land".

South Hauppauge - Neighborhood in the hamlet of Hauppauge, south of the LIE.

South Greenlawn - Neighborhood in the hamlet of Greenlawn that has the 11743 (Huntington) zip code.

North Brentwood - I guess the north section of the hamlet of Brentwood?

Lakeland - Former hamlet in what is now Ronkonkoma...I think this is the name of the fire department that covers this area too.

Lake Hills - Neighborhood in the hamlet of Ronkonkoma, formerly part of Lakeland.

Village of the Branch - Village in the Town of Smithtown, incorporated in 1927.

Terryville - Hamlet in the Town of Brookhaven.


NASSAU

East Hills - Village in the Town of North Hempstead, incorporated in 1931.

Munsey Hill - Never heard of this, I think you meant Munsey Park.

Lattingtown - Village in the Town of Oyster Bay, incorporated in 1931.

Muttontown - Village in the Town of Oyster Bay, incorporated in 1931.

Matinecock - Village in the Town of Oyster Bay, incorporated in 1928.

Mandalay - Neighborhood in the hamlet of Wantagh.

Colony Bay - Neighborhood in the hamlet of Baldwin Harbor.

Lakeview - Hamlet in the Town of Hempstead.

Garden City Park - Hamlet in the Town of North Hempstead.

Stewart Manor - Village in the Town of Hempstead, incorporated in 1927.

Flower Hill - Village in the Town of North Hempstead, incorporated in 1931.

Munsey Park - Village in the Town of North Hempstead, incorporated in 1930.

Thomaston - Village in the Town of North Hempstead, incorporated in 1931.

Malverne Park-Oaks - Hamlet in the Town of Hempstead.

South Hempstead - Hamlet in the Town of Hempstead.

Got any more?

NICE WORK!!!!!!!!!!!

C

[OhBeeHave]

Originally Posted by Walter Greenspan

You're working under a false assumption that I rely on Wikipedia, I don't.

My main source is "Special Districts and Service Area" by the Nassau County Planning Commission, an 11" X 17" spiral bound publication that has maps showing the borders of communities, school districts, library districts, postal ZIP Codes, water districts, sanitary sewer districts, police districts, park districts, fire districts, etc., etc., etc.




Because people and firms use "North Massapequa, NY 11758" in their mailing address, does not make it correct.




No part of the Hamlet of Seaford is in the Town of Oyster Bay.

Seaford is a hamlet (unincorporated area) in the extreme southeast section of the Town of Hempstead, in the southeast part of Nassau County, along the Hempstead/Oyster Bay town line.

Even the folks at City-Data appear to have made what your charts deem a faux pas: NORTH MASSAPEQUA, NY Political Contributions by Individuals

Your chart from the "Nassau County Planning Commission" might have all of the minutiae spelled out for the overly special tax district bloated bureaucrats, and while it applies to them, the residents of the area and their postal service will still say, "North Massapequa."

Perhaps you should go door to door throughout the area where people and firms use "North Massapequa" and tell them they are incorrect? As far back as I recall, 1974, that is what we used. Let's not forget that there are also 2 zip codes for Massapequa -- 11758 & 11762. 11762 bissects Massapequa and 11762 is considered Massapequa Park, although some people drop the Park and use Massapequa, NY 11762. Should we split hairs with them over this ommission?

Zip 11758 has two post offices. One branch handles North Massapequa, and until very recently was in North Massapequa. Tom Gaynor with the Postal Service has confirmed that it is now located in postal Seaford, not Hamlet Seaford. The other branch covers everything south up to the barrier beach.

Call it what you will, but North Massapequa has and will always be referred to as North Massapequa by North Massapequans.

[TomMoser]

If you're curious about a little history of San Remo: The land was originally owned by someone who owned an Italian language newspaper in Brooklyn in the early 1900's. As a promotion, if you subscribed to his newspaper, you would receive a plot of land in San Remo. To this day, San Remo has small plots and is largely Italian.

[clamboy]

Originally Posted by TomMoser

If you're curious about a little history of San Remo: The land was originally owned by someone who owned an Italian language newspaper in Brooklyn in the early 1900's. As a promotion, if you subscribed to his newspaper, you would receive a plot of land in San Remo. To this day, San Remo has small plots and is largely Italian.

Sounds like Rocky Point/Sound Beach and the Daily Mirror

C

[TomMoser]

Originally Posted by clamboy

Sounds like Rocky Point/Sound Beach and the Daily Mirror

C

Is that true? I haven't heard that one.

[clamboy]

North Shore Beach Property Owners Association of Rocky Point, New York


I think it was 20x100 for $89

Amazing

C

[Tony V]

Originally Posted by sean sean sean sean

A lot of them really shouldn't be on there but I have a feeling they will be anyway haha....I'm not exactly sure what the criteria is to be a "fake town" but I'm gonna try to explain all of them....

SUFFOLK

South Setauket - Neighborhood in the hamlet of Centereach. And within the 3 Village School District

North Coram - Neighborhood in the hamlet of Coram.

San Remo - Neighborhood in the hamlet of Kings Park. Think this was formerly a hamlet, but I'm not sure.

Scotts Beach - Neighborhood in the hamlet of Sound Beach. Actually a Home owners Assoc,

Tangiers - Neighborhood in the hamlet of Shirley. Comes from a housing development built there around 1910...which may predate the name "Shirley".

Smiths Point - I think this is an older name for what is now the hamlet of Mastic Beach.

E Yaphank - Never heard of this but I'm guessing it's just a fancy name for the neighborhood between South Haven Park and Brookhaven Airport (which is in the hamlet of Shirley).

Manor Park - Neighborhood in the hamlet of Mastic, I think located between Sunrise and Montauk Highway. Another one that might be an old development.

Roanoake - First colonial settlement in what is now the United States. Killed by indians. (Joking...I've never heard of this!)

Islandia - Village in the Town of Islip, incorporated in 1985.

South Amityville - Neighborhood in the village of Amityville, south of Montauk Highway.

Old Medford - Neighborhood in (I'm assuming) the hamlet of Medford.

Old East Northport - Neighborhood in the hamlet of East Northport. According to another poster, it's the numbered streets.

Hagerman - Former hamlet that was absorbed by the hamlet of East Patchogue sometime between 1990 and 2000.

Upton - Mailing address of Brookhaven National Laboratories. Former WWI army outpost and possibly a hamlet at one time.

Edgewood - No clue but I'm guessing the neighborhood close to the old Edgewood State Hospital in the hamlet of Deer Park?

Crab Meadow - An older name for the Northport area, and I guess a neighborhood near the Crab Meadow Golf Course? To the west of the Golf course also an area with several HOA's

Pinelawn - Cemetery in the hamlet of East Farmingdale.

Deer Hills - Neighborhood in (I'm assuming) the north part of the hamlet of Deer Park.

Strongs Neck - Neighborhood in the hamlet of Setauket-East Setauket. Also a peninsula. In olden times "Neck" was a synonym for "owned land".

South Hauppauge - Neighborhood in the hamlet of Hauppauge, south of the LIE.

South Greenlawn - Neighborhood in the hamlet of Greenlawn that has the 11743 (Huntington) zip code.

North Brentwood - I guess the north section of the hamlet of Brentwood?

Lakeland - Former hamlet in what is now Ronkonkoma...I think this is the name of the fire department that covers this area too. Correct about FD

Lake Hills - Neighborhood in the hamlet of Ronkonkoma, formerly part of Lakeland.

Village of the Branch - Village in the Town of Smithtown, incorporated in 1927.

Terryville - Hamlet in the Town of Brookhaven.


NASSAU

East Hills - Village in the Town of North Hempstead, incorporated in 1931.

Munsey Hill - Never heard of this, I think you meant Munsey Park.

Lattingtown - Village in the Town of Oyster Bay, incorporated in 1931.

Muttontown - Village in the Town of Oyster Bay, incorporated in 1931.

Matinecock - Village in the Town of Oyster Bay, incorporated in 1928.

Mandalay - Neighborhood in the hamlet of Wantagh.

Colony Bay - Neighborhood in the hamlet of Baldwin Harbor.

Lakeview - Hamlet in the Town of Hempstead.

Garden City Park - Hamlet in the Town of North Hempstead.

Stewart Manor - Village in the Town of Hempstead, incorporated in 1927.

Flower Hill - Village in the Town of North Hempstead, incorporated in 1931.

Munsey Park - Village in the Town of North Hempstead, incorporated in 1930.

Thomaston - Village in the Town of North Hempstead, incorporated in 1931.

Malverne Park-Oaks - Hamlet in the Town of Hempstead.

South Hempstead - Hamlet in the Town of Hempstead.

Got any more?

Ocean Ridge which is the ""newer area"" of Davis Park on Fire Island.

[clamboy]

Originally Posted by TomMoser

Is that true? I haven't heard that one.

History of the NSBPOA


Heres the Mirror Link

C

[TomMoser]

Originally Posted by clamboy

History of the NSBPOA


Heres the Mirror Link

C

Very cool. I think we need another thread devoted to Long Island History.