Imaginary Towns on Long Island /Real or Fancied/Town vs Area...You Decide. (Brookhaven: houses)

[Walter Greenspan]

Originally Posted by sean sean sean sean

South Floral Park is a legit village.

Incorporated in 1925 as the Village of Jamaica Square, the name of the municipality was changed to South Floral Park in 1931.

The Village of South Floral Park encompasses (this may be too powerful a verb to be using here) an area of only 64 acres!

According to my quick calculation, 64 acres = 0.1 square miles (yup, that's a 1/10th of a square mile). In other words, if the Village of South Floral Park was a perfect square, then each of its sides would be slightly less than 1/3rd of a mile (actually each side would be 0.316 miles and the perimeter of the village would be 1.265 miles).

The Village of South Floral Park in the northwest part of the Town of Hempstead in Nassau County is the smallest village in either Nassau or Suffolk counties in terms of acreage because it is also the smallest in New York State. (The Village of Dering Harbor in the Town of Shelter Island and the Village of Saltaire in the Town of Islip, both in Suffolk County, are the 1st and 2nd smallest (???) in New York State in terms of population, with a January 1, 2006 LIPA estimated population of 15 and 46 persons, respectively, versus 1,585 in South Floral Park.)

South Floral Park is one of those many villages and hamlets on Long Island where none of the places in the community have the village name in their mailing address: places within the Village of South Floral Park have a "Floral Park, NY 11001" mailing address.

[nancy thereader]

Isn't there a place called Lonelyville ? It always reminds me of that old Ricky Nelson song "Lonesometown" ? I always liked Ricky Nelson and was very sad that he died when he was so very young.

[clamboy]

Originally Posted by nancy thereader

Isn't there a place called Lonelyville ? It always reminds me of that old Ricky Nelson song "Lonesometown" ? I always liked Ricky Nelson and was very sad that he died when he was so very young.

Yes...Fire Island

C

[Dee62]

Barnum Woods was "created" in the early 19th century, East Meadow is the newer name. South Floral Park is a legit village.

No NO NO NO Sean you are missing my point!! Read your own Words:

I found another fake driving around South Valley Stream today: Mill Brook. Just south of the Green Acres Mall,

Valley Stream North and Valley Stream Central are presently receiving an influx of Non-whites!

Does anybody think That use of these fake or legitamate names of Hamlets and unicorporated Villages of the Past are a shrewd Block-Busting attempt by Real Estate Brokers and Developers to Boost or prop up a certain area at the expense of another?????

I do know as a fact Real Estate people and Homeowners who lived along Covert Avenue in Northern Elmont listed their houses not as Elmont but as Floral Park Crest or Floral Park South! Please note: they did not list the houses as South Floral Park which is a predominately Black town juxtaposted to the Jamaica square section of Elmont and hidden south of Floral blvd. behind the Village of Floral Park but they listed the houses as Floral Park South!!!!!!!!

Where does this Bull Shail name Floral Park South come from???? Was this another rediculous scam by Real estate silly's to make the houses more marketable in an Elmont that had Changed demographically from Predominately White to Predominately Non-White??????

[Walter Greenspan]

Originally Posted by Dee62

... fake or legitamate names of Hamlets and unicorporated Villages of the Past ...

While cities, villages and hamlets, and even towns, have had, and will continue to have, name changes since New York State was organized into counties and the counties were organized into towns on November 1, 1683, there ain't ever been no such thing as an unincorporated village!

In NYS, a village is a municipal corporation. An unincorporated village would thus be an oxymoron as it would mean an unincorporated corporation.

This confusion occurs in areas where the postal zone has a different border than does the village whose name the postal zone "shares", and many people who reside in that part of the postal zone that is not in the village have the erroneous belief that they are in an unincorporated village. They aren't. They are actually in a hamlet that has a different name than does the community name that is in their mailing address. Bear in mind, the problem of non-conforming postal zones leads to a situation where the majority of places on LI have a different community name in their mailing address than the community where that place is actually located.

This problem is so severe that many villages list themselves as incorporated villages, which is over-identification as it means an incorporated corporation. They do this because too many people erroneously belief that there are in an unincorporated village.

For the definition of county, city, town, village, hamlet and postal zone, please see: NYS Geographic Glossary

[Dee62]

An original by Walter Greenspan

While cities, villages and hamlets, and even towns, have had, and will continue to have, name changes since New York State was organized into counties and the counties were organized into towns on November 1, 1683, there ain't ever been no such thing as an unincorporated village!

In NYS, a village is a municipal corporation. An unincorporated village would thus be an oxymoron as it would mean an unincorporated corporation.

This confusion occurs in areas where the postal zone has a different border than does the village whose name the postal zone "shares", and many people who reside in that part of the postal zone that is not in the village have the erroneous belief that they are in an unincorporated village. They aren't. They are actually in a hamlet that has a different name than does the community name that is in their mailing address. Bear in mind, the problem of non-conforming postal zones leads to a situation where the majority of places on LI have a different community name in their mailing address than the community where that place is actually located.

This problem is so severe that many villages list themselves as incorporated villages, which is over-identification as it means an incorporated corporation. They do this because too many people erroneously belief that there are in an unincorporated village.

For the definition of county, city, town, village, hamlet and postal zone, please see: NYS Geographic Glossary

Yes Wally very nice of you to plagiarize a trivial point from a copy of the encyclopedia of Brittanica or even worse Wikipedia and turn it into a unimportant thesis in a futile attempt divert attention and creditability away from an intellectually important and well thought out opinion just like you have done in previous postings and other L.I. Threads please get off and go to Newsday!!!!!!! Can anybody else answer this question!!!!

Does anybody think That use of these fake or legitamate names of Hamlets and unicorporated Villages of the Past are a shrewd Block-Busting attempt by Real Estate Brokers and Developers to Boost or prop up a certain area at the expense of another?????

[Walter Greenspan]

Originally Posted by Dee62

Yes Wally nice of you to plagiarize an illrelivant point from a copy of the enclyopedia of Brittanica but you are not answering my question!!!!

A bit snarky, huh?

< 1 > My name ain't Wally. Neither is it Walt.

< 2 > I did not plagiarize anything from the Encyclopedia Brittanica. If you read NYS Geographic Glossary, you'll see that the source was provided as "Local Government Handbook, Division of Local Government Services, NYS Department of State, 4th Edition, 1987".

< 3 > Correct geography is not irrelevant.

< 4 > Yes, developers and others do use misleading geographical names (North Woodmere instead of South Valley Stream, for example) and they get away with doing so because the majority of the people are geographically illiterate, and that's why correct geography is very relevant.

[Dee62]

Oh Please Another Original by Walter Greenspan

A bit snarky, huh?

< 1 > My name ain't Wally. Neither is it Walt.

< 2 > I did not plagiarize anything from the Encyclopedia Brittanica. If you read NYS Geographic Glossary, you'll see that the source was provided as "Local Government Handbook, Division of Local Government Services, NYS Department of State, 4th Edition, 1987".

< 3 > Correct geography is not irrelevant.

< 4 > Yes, developers and others do use misleading geographical names (North Woodmere instead of South Valley Stream, for example) and they get away with doing so because the majority of the people are geographically illiterate, and that's why correct geography is very relevant.

Yes Walter Greenspan very nice of you to plagiarize a trivial point from a copy of the encyclopedia of Brittanica or even worse Wikipedia and turn it into a unimportant thesis in a futile attempt divert attention and creditability away from an intellectually important and well thought out opinion just like you have done in previous postings and other L.I. Threads please get off and go to Newsday!!!!!!! Can anybody else answer this question!!!!

Does anybody think That use of these fake or legitamate names of Hamlets and unicorporated Villages of the Past are a shrewd Block-Busting attempt by Real Estate Brokers and Developers to Boost or prop up a certain area at the expense of another?????

[TomMoser]

I'm not sure that I would view it so cynically, but some names certainly are used to distinguish an area from one that, in some consumer's minds, may not be as desirable. I'm not sure if that is what you were looking for.

[sean sean sean sean]

Originally Posted by Dee62

Valley Stream North and Valley Stream Central are presently receiving an influx of Non-whites!

Does anybody think That use of these fake or legitamate names of Hamlets and unicorporated Villages of the Past are a shrewd Block-Busting attempt by Real Estate Brokers and Developers to Boost or prop up a certain area at the expense of another?????

I do know as a fact Real Estate people and Homeowners who lived along Covert Avenue in Northern Elmont listed their houses not as Elmont but as Floral Park Crest or Floral Park South! Please note: they did not list the houses as South Floral Park which is a predominately Black town juxtaposted to the Jamaica square section of Elmont and hidden south of Floral blvd. behind the Village of Floral Park but they listed the houses as Floral Park South!!!!!!!!

Where does this Bull Shail name Floral Park South come from???? Was this another rediculous scam by Real estate silly's to make the houses more marketable in an Elmont that had Changed demographically from Predominately White to Predominately Non-White??????

Your original post said South Floral Park. I'm aware of the real estate name game, but you seem awful upset about it...or are you upset about the influx of non-whites? Your post is too confusing for me, please rephrase it with less bold faced letters and exclamation points!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!