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Old 02-12-2013, 11:28 AM
 
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As of Thursday night the weather forecasters were saying that the worst of it was going to be around 3PM.

Unless LI town officials don't have radios and TV's, they should have had their assets mobilized by 3PM, not sitting in yards waiting for the storm to end, as is what apparently happened with Town of Brookhaven.
Apparently they were hanging out with their counterparts in Islip, Smithtown, Riverhead, Suffolk County and State DOT
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Old 02-12-2013, 11:32 AM
 
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Another factor is the fact that the plow drivers for the state,Countys and towns are union and anyone thats been in a union knows what "Milking the Job" means.
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Old 02-12-2013, 11:56 AM
 
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I am not defending the town or anything, ...
Except that you are. In past storms, even with storms of this magnitude, plows and sanders were mobilized immediately. They took a proactive approach to the storm and had plows running throughout the storms. This storm, it simply wasn't the case. They waited until there was already 3 feet of snow on the ground before they started to do anything.
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Old 02-12-2013, 12:47 PM
 
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Long Islands unplowed conditions was just on the news here in Richmond. They didn't identify the town but 2 individuals mentioned was the town sup who is on vacation and the supervisor of roads who has called in sick every day. Does not look good.....
Brookhaven.

Newly elected Supervisor is on a tropical vacation. He left on Wednesday. One of the next in command, Murphy, was out with a toothache, leaving a panicky Panico to run the show.
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Old 02-12-2013, 12:52 PM
 
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Seen numerous Brookhaven vehicles driving around with their plows up. Heard through the grapevine that this is a collective effort by town employees to "voice" their displeasure at the layoffs and lack of manpower. After this, they'll claim that plows were out, but they were simply too short-handed to handle it due to layoffs and no new hires. Additionally, in past storms, I had seen and heard plows out throughout the storm. I didn't see a single town vehicle during this storm, and I live on a fairly busy road in the Township.

If that is true, then all these workers need to be fired immediately and bring in some of the many people that are desperately looking for work. No excuses. This is not a time to pull BS like that!
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Old 02-12-2013, 01:14 PM
 
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Happy to be out of the house finally. Street got plowed late last night.
Even the fallen trees were taken care of last night!

This is the university parking this morning - piles of maybe 20ft of snow?

Now, I see all the trees (signature of the North Shore) as land mines - which ones will fall during the next storm or wind >40mph and how much will that cost...
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Old 02-12-2013, 01:23 PM
 
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They should have been out salting /brine and sanding early on Friday. My neighbor works in Melville and left work at 4 (boss wasn't letting anyone go too early) She said it was bad when she hit 454/347. Took her 3 hours overall. Had plows been out on 347/454 or the LIE BEFORE rush hour, we might not have seen abandoned vehicles on any of those roads.

This is another issue I think the media should have addressed. The fact that despite all of the warnings businesses were not allowing their workers to leave!
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Old 02-12-2013, 02:06 PM
 
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This is another issue I think the media should have addressed. The fact that despite all of the warnings businesses were not allowing their workers to leave!

Blizzard, pffft, just their lazy "employees" looking to put one over on the job creators. Be happy you have a job, peons.

Where's GPSMA when you need some comedy?
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Old 02-12-2013, 02:22 PM
 
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I am not defending the town or anything, but I have lived in 2 other cities where we got ~3 feet of snow and the response was not any better. There is a huge, wild difference between even 2 feet of snow and nearly 3. Maybe I am not shocked because I have been through a storm like this before but the aftermath is not pretty. A regular pickup truck with a plow on the front is not going to cut it with 3 feet of snow.

Also the tricky thing about this storm was that it was forecast to start much later. My daughter was at school and I looked outside at 1:30pm and it was snowing like crazy and I went to get her by 2pm. Had I waited until 3pm for the regular dismissal, it would have been ugly. Most people can't drive in the snow and even though I have a 4 wheel drive car and have experience driving in these conditions, I know that snow removal depends on people being off the roads. They can't plow if abandoned cars are blocking the road.

I know everyone loves to blame someone in every situation, but sometimes bad things happen. It is not always someone's fault! It was a convergence of several factors-- sleet changing over to snow earlier, evening rush hour, getting more snow than predicted. We got 28 inches and we were supposed to get 8-18. That is a difference of 10 inches.

Listen, this happens very rarely here. It is unfortunate that it happened this year, but just be glad that you don't live in places where it snows like this all of the time! That's why I live here now instead of in Montreal.
The governor of Mass ordered everyone off the roads by - what - 3 p.m. Friday? This kind of action solves the problem of greedy bosses who keep their employees at work till the 11th hour.

The amounf of snow is a moot point right now. Whether it ended being a bust at 6 inches or you got 3 feet when you expected half that amount, you cannot start plowing when the storm is over. I've never heard of such a thing, even on LI.
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Old 02-12-2013, 02:38 PM
 
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The governor of Mass ordered everyone off the roads by - what - 3 p.m. Friday? This kind of action solves the problem of greedy bosses who keep their employees at work till the 11th hour.

The amounf of snow is a moot point right now. Whether it ended being a bust at 6 inches or you got 3 feet when you expected half that amount, you cannot start plowing when the storm is over. I've never heard of such a thing, even on LI.
Oh please with the Greedy Bosses Occupy Wall Street bloviating propoganda. There are people that need to work and are in jobs that are necessary....police, firemen, nurses, to just name a few. You would be the first to have a hissy fit if someone wasnt working when YOU needed their services.
Anyone that has an office job in Manhattan was beating feet out of there real quick on Friday so stop blaming the Greedy Boss ogre for this problem. I bet half those idiots stuck had no business driving to begin with. Probably women rushing back from the nail salon.
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