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This ranking should also include/weigh in the percentage of students who plan to attend a trade school.
Most kids are obviously influenced by their parents.
Since most kids from blue-collar towns come from families where their parents did a trade, they will be more likely to attend trade schools; and less prone to attend a University. You can actually be reasonably successful and make a good living doing a trade (without the massive debt).
This ranking makes it seem as if there is something wrong with the educational systems of blue-collar schools or the community in which they're in when there really isn't.
There are specific trade schools on Long Island for this. This is a list of all public general admission schools on LI. Honestly, Long Island public high schools are NOT built with trade programs in mind. They are purely college prep. BOCES has the trade programs for those wishing to pursue them. We can only work with the data available to us and those types of ambiguous things are not listed as data points on the NYSED report cards.
There are specific trade schools on Long Island for this. This is a list of all public general admission schools on LI. Honestly, Long Island public high schools are NOT built with trade programs in mind. They are purely college prep. BOCES has the trade programs for those wishing to pursue them. We can only work with the data available to us and those types of ambiguous things are not listed as data points on the NYSED report cards.
All i'm saying is that it would paint a more accurate picture of the quality of LI school districts IF they did weigh in the percentage of students who plan to attend a trade school. These rankings change their methodologies every now and then so if they could factor this in then it would be more fair. Heavily white-collar districts have an advantage off-the-bat.
According to this ranking, a kid who plans on doing completely nothing after graduation has the same negative weighting as a student who plans on enrolling in a Trade School for several years and being educated in a skilled trade.
Last edited by MemoryMaker; 04-29-2014 at 04:53 PM..
After looking it over NYSED does have "Other Post-Secondary Plans" as a metric which would probably include trade schools. However, while working on some rankings myself, these numbers so far are so tiny (like 1 - 3 students per school) that they would have no effect on the rankings.
Actually in Nassau there is a very big difference between #1 and #10. Nassau high schools, for the most part, have become college preparatory schools so the best metric to compare them is the quality of the colleges the graduates are accepted. Given this metric, Jericho, Manhasset and Great Neck far outshine North Shore, Garden City, Plainview, etc... Each school has on their website a profile detailing SAT and ACT scores, colleges accepted, AP stats, NMS stats, etc... According to their profiles Jericho and Manhasset are obviously the best high schools in Nassau.
Not necessarily a good metric because many intelligent and well educated people with limited means will actively choose a community college or the military to save a good deal of cash. This metric would only do a great job of showing socioeconomic status.
Yes, these ratings are a crock. A school district serving a traditional blue collar, working class community would be doing a disservice pushing all kids into college. Look at how expensive college is today and how many kids come out with tremendous debt and are unemployable with worthless degrees. A smart school would be preparing students for a variety of options, including trade school, community college, or the military, yet such a school would be penalized by this silly ranking system. These silly "ranks" are simply promulgated by teacher unions and real estate agents to make buyers (sheep) feel better about shoveling so much wasted cash in the dysfunctional blackhole that is otherwise known as the LI secondary education system. What a scam, yet as demonstrated here, the sheeple keep eating it up. Keep signing your $12,000 property checks away every year and believing that the corrupt educational unions and BMW driving Daddy Warbucks superintendents can turn all your little rug rats into the next Einstein or Mozart.
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