I really dont know why some ppl think LI is great (Mexico: safe area, buyer)

[watamensch]

Originally Posted by LIMA

Hey slow down there kid, i don't know what your talking about but let me help you here with all this wonderful LUCK you posted...

Not true, go back and take a look at the maps and compare things now to then and before the last storm that shortened alot of long island.
Every single little storm takes away all kinds of land...and the bigger ones drag away land, if you were to get a permit to drive the beaches you'll understand exactly what im talking about..when the drives become shorter and shorter

Natural disasters, the only reason long island still isn't fighting back from hurricane gloria was and is ONLY because when it got here it was dead low tide....

If it was high tide... Long island would have been under water, since the tide would have been another 12' on top of a new moon high tide...

We have been lucky, and do not forget it, because when you need to get the hell out, your gonna die waiting in line...

And if you live you'll have some non intelligent people to thank that kept things from getting done, and some probably donate to there causes..

The island is a dead end...it ain't that great, and in the past 10 years we lost more things we had and now have much less and it costs much more... it's, used to be, and remember when.

Schools we also have a much larger population.
Water is contaminated
Wine is acidic out here.

Ok...
you can move to the gulf coast. No earthquakes, but lots of hurricanes.
you can move to California. Rain, drought, earthquakes, mudslides and more
you can move to the mid west or south - tornadoes.

OR LONG ISLAND
No measurable earthquakes, an occasional TINY tornado, and a whopper hurricane every 30-50 years.

Even if we have these occasionally, they are minor compared with other areas of the country. When is the last time you saw a church, school or whole neighborhood wiped out by natural disaster on Long Island???

No place is immune from natural disasters, but Long Island is pretty safe!

The PERCENTAGE of college grads is higher, not the overall total.
Is the water any worse then other parts of the country?

[LIMA]

Originally Posted by watamensch

Ok...
you can move to the gulf coast. No earthquakes, but lots of hurricanes.
you can move to California. Rain, drought, earthquakes, mudslides and more
you can move to the mid west or south - tornadoes.

OR LONG ISLAND
No measurable earthquakes, an occasional TINY tornado, and a whopper hurricane every 30-50 years.

Even if we have these occasionally, they are minor compared with other areas of the country. When is the last time you saw a church, school or whole neighborhood wiped out by natural disaster on Long Island???

No place is immune from natural disasters, but Long Island is pretty safe!

The PERCENTAGE of college grads is higher, not the overall total.
Is the water any worse then other parts of the country?

When is the last time we had a bad natural disaster.....are you sure your from NY? you better do some research you'll find this isn't the safest place in the world that you think it is.. Wasn't that long ago.....take a look for yourself

Long island is not safe at one point in time long island will be washed away, not a IF thing, just when...

I would rather a earthquake hurricane or other then being washed away with no alternative then the hopefully full 6 hours we need to get the hell off this island, If IF it happens when you aren't sleeping....which thanks to the many people smart enough to stop many projects will have killed a lot of us...thanks for saving those salamanders...that was great thinking, save a fishing lure..this is the problem with long island

Is the water any worse then other parts....lets see are there other parts of the country where people are getting cancer like it's the new thing to have....take a look back thru history research the areas where these things happen and you see what could be the 1 thing all these people have in common... They aren't eating the dirt, but they are drinking the _____

[Jrprofess]

Originally Posted by LIMA

When is the last time we had a bad natural disaster.....are you sure your from NY? you better do some research you'll find this isn't the safest place in the world that you think it is.. Wasn't that long ago.....take a look for yourself

Long island is not safe at one point in time long island will be washed away, not a IF thing, just when...

I would rather a earthquake hurricane or other then being washed away with no alternative then the hopefully full 6 hours we need to get the hell off this island, If IF it happens when you aren't sleeping....which thanks to the many people smart enough to stop many projects will have killed a lot of us...thanks for saving those salamanders...that was great thinking, save a fishing lure..this is the problem with long island

Is the water any worse then other parts....lets see are there other parts of the country where people are getting cancer like it's the new thing to have....take a look back thru history research the areas where these things happen and you see what could be the 1 thing all these people have in common... They aren't eating the dirt, but they are drinking the _____

No offense, but when people respond with their own experience and comments based on prior history, if it does not agree with your points you simply ignore it and rant on...I agree with others on this board, the price for specials is rarely shared, anywhere...and this topic deserves its own conversation within the "why people hate LI" thread??? Are you serious??

And when the poster "new"toli responds back to your point that he must have lived here his entire life (as if this makes him ignorant and his opinion flawed) that they have in fact been here less than 2 years you do not even feel a need to apologize.

If you want to make a point about your disagreement with our land preservation approach in this region and the failure to support open space activities for non-horse activities, well, that sounds like an interesting topic. As does your comments concerning LI being the father of outdoor motorsports. I was unaware of this. But blasting other posters who look back at things like our "natural disaster" history and debate that we have not had the horrific tornadoes and mass destruction of areas like Florida or California is ignorant. Your only response is that Long Island will definitely wash away at some point...not "if" but when...isn't that the kind of baseless comment you would rail against?? Given we are a shoreline region and have always been I would expect beach preservation efforts to step up and/or continue over the next generation. Try having a polite debate....

[GCGuy]

Originally Posted by Jrprofess

No offense, but when people respond with their own experience and comments based on prior history, if it does not agree with your points you simply ignore it and rant on...I agree with others on this board, the price for specials is rarely shared, anywhere...and this topic deserves its own conversation within the "why people hate LI" thread??? Are you serious??

And when the poster "new"toli responds back to your point that he must have lived here his entire life (as if this makes him ignorant and his opinion flawed) that they have in fact been here less than 2 years you do not even feel a need to apologize.

If you want to make a point about your disagreement with our land preservation approach in this region and the failure to support open space activities for non-horse activities, well, that sounds like an interesting topic. As does your comments concerning LI being the father of outdoor motorsports. I was unaware of this. But blasting other posters who look back at things like our "natural disaster" history and debate that we have not had the horrific tornadoes and mass destruction of areas like Florida or California is ignorant. Your only response is that Long Island will definitely wash away at some point...not "if" but when...isn't that the kind of baseless comment you would rail against?? Given we are a shoreline region and have always been I would expect beach preservation efforts to step up and/or continue over the next generation. Try having a polite debate....

This guy/girl would love LI if we still have 1572 racetracks.

[watamensch]

Generally speaking, when natural disasters occur, they're in the south or mid west. In the case of earthquakes, events happen from Alaska down the west coast into Mexico. MOST hurricanes occur in the south and gulf coast region, and when they arrive in the NY area they are weakened.

We can get a Cat. 3 or higher hurricane. We had a huge one in 1938, and others over the years. Based on the odds and the history, we live in a relatively calm area as natural disasters go.

Can we have major flooding, yes. Can we have death and destruction, yes. We do not have mudslides, earthquakes, tornadoes, avalanches and until now we don't have a lot of major flooding.

As long as the waiter tells me how much the special is the night before "the big one" I will die a happy man.

'nuf said.

[GCGuy]

Originally Posted by watamensch

Generally speaking, when natural disasters occur, they're in the south or mid west. In the case of earthquakes, events happen from Alaska down the west coast into Mexico. MOST hurricanes occur in the south and gulf coast region, and when they arrive in the NY area they are weakened.

We can get a Cat. 3 or higher hurricane. We had a huge one in 1938, and others over the years. Based on the odds and the history, we live in a relatively calm area as natural disasters go.

Can we have major flooding, yes. Can we have death and destruction, yes. We do not have mudslides, earthquakes, tornadoes, avalanches and until now we don't have a lot of major flooding.

As long as the waiter tells me how much the special is the night before "the big one" I will die a happy man.

'nuf said.

Freaking funny stuff...

[LIMA]

Originally Posted by Jrprofess

No offense, but when people respond with their own experience and comments based on prior history, if it does not agree with your points you simply ignore it and rant on...I agree with others on this board, the price for specials is rarely shared, anywhere...and this topic deserves its own conversation within the "why people hate LI" thread??? Are you serious??

And when the poster "new"toli responds back to your point that he must have lived here his entire life (as if this makes him ignorant and his opinion flawed) that they have in fact been here less than 2 years you do not even feel a need to apologize.

If you want to make a point about your disagreement with our land preservation approach in this region and the failure to support open space activities for non-horse activities, well, that sounds like an interesting topic. As does your comments concerning LI being the father of outdoor motorsports. I was unaware of this. But blasting other posters who look back at things like our "natural disaster" history and debate that we have not had the horrific tornadoes and mass destruction of areas like Florida or California is ignorant. Your only response is that Long Island will definitely wash away at some point...not "if" but when...isn't that the kind of baseless comment you would rail against?? Given we are a shoreline region and have always been I would expect beach preservation efforts to step up and/or continue over the next generation. Try having a polite debate....

Ok well then you start since i had said nothing about some miniscule issue about lack of pricing next to a special menu...

And then you can clear up another mistake with newtoli, who i haven't responded to.

As per blasting, i love how people rea into things that are not there, i have not blasted or argued, i in fact told them to research on there own, my experience about the internet is if you tell them they believe you are lying in your favor...as you do not know the history of long island and how it got on the map...You said you were unaware...

So like i said to those that believe this is a safe place, go and do some research and then you'll see as have i this is not in fact as safe as you all believe, and if you do some research you'll find that this is the birthplace of motorsports in the USA, and also a little further research you will find the birthplace to equestrian.....

As per beach preservation, not one elected official has done anything to help it, not yet still in this day and age have they brought in break water rocks.... so please do not sit there and believe there doing anything to preserve anything, go and get a permit to drive on the beaches, and every year come back and tell us about your shortened trip.....then bring up preservation efforts....


When quoting use multi quotes don't throw me in with several others.

Originally Posted by GCGuy

this guy/girl would love LI if we still have 1572 racetracks.

Yes because then long island was truly long island, not the land of no with insane people making sure we are not looked after and put in harms way.
Insane enviro orgs with made up make believe bs to save there beliefs and put the human below that of a salamander, or bird, or some other insignificant thing...
No more spraying for mosquitoes it may/could harm a crab nearby....The crab or your son/daughter to west nile, you make the choice...oh no need to they chose your son / daughter for you.... Wonderful...
Have you any idea how much this island has changed for the worse in the past 20 years, have you been watching everything people are fighting against, they might as well hang themselves, they already thru the rope over the branch, finish it.

[Jrprofess]

Originally Posted by LIMA

Ok well then you start since i had said nothing about some miniscule issue about lack of pricing next to a special menu...

And then you can clear up another mistake with newtoli, who i haven't responded to.

As per blasting, i love how people rea into things that are not there, i have not blasted or argued, i in fact told them to research on there own, my experience about the internet is if you tell them they believe you are lying in your favor...as you do not know the history of long island and how it got on the map...You said you were unaware...

So like i said to those that believe this is a safe place, go and do some research and then you'll see as have i this is not in fact as safe as you all believe, and if you do some research you'll find that this is the birthplace of motorsports in the USA, and also a little further research you will find the birthplace to equestrian.....

As per beach preservation, not one elected official has done anything to help it, not yet still in this day and age have they brought in break water rocks.... so please do not sit there and believe there doing anything to preserve anything, go and get a permit to drive on the beaches, and every year come back and tell us about your shortened trip.....then bring up preservation efforts....


When quoting use multi quotes don't throw me in with several others.



Yes because then long island was truly long island, not the land of no with insane people making sure we are not looked after and put in harms way.
Insane enviro orgs with made up make believe bs to save there beliefs and put the human below that of a salamander, or bird, or some other insignificant thing...
No more spraying for mosquitoes it may/could harm a crab nearby....The crab or your son/daughter to west nile, you make the choice...oh no need to they chose your son / daughter for you.... Wonderful...
Have you any idea how much this island has changed for the worse in the past 20 years, have you been watching everything people are fighting against, they might as well hang themselves, they already thru the rope over the branch, finish it.

Totally my mistake LIMA on the specials and new to li clarification...that was meant for another. My apologies.

But I do have one continuing debatable point....and I quote:

"As per blasting, i love how people rea into things that are not there, i have not blasted or argued, i in fact told them to research on there own, my experience about the internet is if you tell them they believe you are lying in your favor"..I believe on more than one posting you mentioned that we would are all gonna die trying to get off the island when a natural disaster hits and asked one of the poster's challenging you if they were really from/lived in NY. Not exactly encouraging some additional research on their end .

Again though, my other replies were directed at a different poster. My mistake.

As a sidebar, is it fair to say though that the "real" Long Island of motor sports and skeet shooting was more of a Suffolk thing? Not sure how much of that was going on in most of Nassau County over history, or when you moved out. Honestly, I have no idea, just curious.

[LIMA]

I appologize if i seem attacking as per the comment of are you sure you live in NY, kind of meant as a sarcastic joke, hard to come off comedic in type, you need the voice change for it to work...

Actually roosevelt field in nassau was a road course, the northern state and motor parkway were race courses, there were a few other facilities in the nassua area.

Used to be 45 within long island, brooklyn, queens, and staten island and the bronx had 1 also.

Crossbay blvd got it's name from the crossbay speedway.

People think motorsports started in other areas... It all started here, sports car type to stock cars. The founder and owner of chevy started on long island in riverhead, and then built chevy, many many 1st were here...but that history is covered up like a evil red headed step child...

The 1st race in the US was the vanderbuilt cup, that in turn started a chain of events here bringing the world of motorsports to Long island...

Where we once had Farmers donating there land to track developers to get them here, we now have the county buy there land to do nothing with.
We had 2 tracks as national landmarks and 2 of the 1st for any track anywhere, 1 was Bridgehampton, the 1st road course and the 1st to hold many or any type of racing.. Also the 1st national landmark to be erased, long island is also the 1st place in the US to erase a national treasure
The 2nd was suffolk or long island speedway, the 1st true 1/4 mile facility, also gone , erased, but we save salamanders that are used for fishing everywhere else.

[ClarkStreetKid]

You're forgetting the greatest of them all, Islip Speedway. Nothing was better than figure 8 racing.