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Gotta be careful with those cameras, I've heard of people making rights on red getting camera tickets and yes they stopped but only for a few seconds. Most refuse to ever make a right on red after that, can't say I blame 'em. No one can force you to make a right on red.
Gotta be careful with those cameras, I've heard of people making rights on red getting camera tickets and yes they stopped but only for a few seconds. Most refuse to ever make a right on red after that, can't say I blame 'em. No one can force you to make a right on red.
For a right on red, you have to come to a FULL stop, check to make sure it's safe to go, and then you can make your turn. That takes more than "a few seconds" so the people who got the tickets deserved them.
I know a couple of people who've gotten the tickets, too. They "rolled" right on red and didn't get why they were receiving tickets because "you can make a right on red".
For a right on red, you have to come to a FULL stop, check to make sure it's safe to go, and then you can make your turn. That takes more than "a few seconds" so the people who got the tickets deserved them.
I know a couple of people who've gotten the tickets, too. They "rolled" right on red and didn't get why they were receiving tickets because "you can make a right on red".
I assume they saw no cars coming when they stopped for a few seconds. Obviously who'd make a right when things weren't clear. Then again there's plenty of ppl who peel out of driveways right into traffic.
I've been told if you're stopped for less than 10 seconds the camera will go off on you.
So many are just playing it safe and not making a right on red even if it's permitted, esp if there's a camera. I know I wouldn't.
Fighting the camera tickets is often a lengthy and expensive process.
I DO NOT think the cameras make the roads safer, they're merely a revenue generator. The yellows are definitely shortened to get you.
I've noticed a new recent trend. People who don't move when the light turns green because they're using the opportunity of a red light to text, update their facebook status, watch a movie, whatever.
It can take two or three honks to get these idiots moving.
I've noticed a new recent trend. People who don't move when the light turns green because they're using the opportunity of a red light to text, update their facebook status, watch a movie, whatever.
It can take two or three honks to get these idiots moving.
For a right on red, you have to come to a FULL stop, check to make sure it's safe to go, and then you can make your turn. That takes more than "a few seconds" so the people who got the tickets deserved them.
I know a couple of people who've gotten the tickets, too. They "rolled" right on red and didn't get why they were receiving tickets because "you can make a right on red".
It takes more than a few seconds. IIRC, we were taught come to a full stop, for at least three seconds, then if clear proceed to make the turn.
Now I DO agree with you, that more than likely, their stop, was a gentile sweeping roll.
DMV, Driver's Ed., common sense.
ROR exhibits the same rules as a stop sign. You don't proceed until coming to a full stop and it's safe to go. The fines are even the same for breaking these rules. That doesn't mean someone can't be a prick and do the same thing at a stop sign. They could sit there all day if they don't feel safe going through.
No one claimed it was mandatory.
People have a right to be annoying. We get it.
ROR is not the same as blowing a red. Both are different violations with their own code. Red light tickets are one of the worst you could get points and fine wise. ROR (Where ROR is permitted) tickets for failing to stop or failing to yield are the same level of violation as stop sign/failure to yield type tickets. Same goes for a 'Flashing Red' traffic light--it's a stop sign.
ROR is NOT the same as a stop sign because it's NOT mandatory that you go, like you said.
ROR is NOT the same as a stop sign because it's NOT mandatory that you go, like you said.
OK, 9 out of 10 people treat it like a stop sign. Close enough to being generally accepted as one. Technically, it's not mandatory to go at a stop sign either. If you see an old lady about to cross from 100 feet away, you don't have to go through until she clears the intersection 10 minutes later. You could also drive 40mph in the middle lane of the LIE if you wanted to. That doesn't mean the speed limit isn't 55mph.
For a right on red, you have to come to a FULL stop, check to make sure it's safe to go, and then you can make your turn. That takes more than "a few seconds" so the people who got the tickets deserved them.
I know a couple of people who've gotten the tickets, too. They "rolled" right on red and didn't get why they were receiving tickets because "you can make a right on red".
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Originally Posted by Buckthedog
It takes more than a few seconds. IIRC, we were taught come to a full stop, for at least three seconds, then if clear proceed to make the turn.
Now I DO agree with you, that more than likely, their stop, was a gentile sweeping roll.
Again, I don't believe there is a time requirement. Depending on how fast you approach the red, a full stop can take 3 seconds, enough to look, and then proceed. If you make sure you stop, as in ZERO forward momentum, for a pause, look and turn, you are OK.
Red light cams are revenue generators. What we need are summons for cell phone use, switching lanes without signaling, and personel or cameras to enforce it
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