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Old 11-19-2013, 08:42 PM
 
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I can understand the numbers coming out of Brooklyn with the neighborhoods dynamics colliding, however how do we explain the numbers in Suffolk.

See Which Downstate County Has the Most Hate Crimes in New York - Police & Fire - New Hyde Park, NY Patch
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Old 11-19-2013, 10:58 PM
 
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I never quite understood the concept of "hate crimes." A crime is a crime. It should be prosecuted as such. To try to assign a specific thought in the perps mind seems to be a stretch. Someone commits murder because he doesn't like your personality(not a hate crime). Someone commits murder because he doesn't like your race(hate crime). Result is still the same. There is a dead person, and someone is responsible. Sentence should be the same.
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Old 11-19-2013, 10:59 PM
 
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Old 11-19-2013, 11:53 PM
 
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They probably count crap like someone spray painting swastikas on walls as hate crimes.
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Old 11-20-2013, 06:51 AM
 
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The term hate crime may be silly to some. I for one understand the difference. targeting a group based on preconceived notions instead of an individual due to an altercation is a big difference. some people just refuse to call a spade a spade and accept the wrong doings of their classification.
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Old 11-20-2013, 07:35 AM
 
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This is so unimportant
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Old 11-20-2013, 08:16 AM
 
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I can understand the numbers coming out of Brooklyn with the neighborhoods dynamics colliding, however how do we explain the numbers in Suffolk.

See Which Downstate County Has the Most Hate Crimes in New York - Police & Fire - New Hyde Park, NY Patch


Are you really surprised???? Lonk Islant is full of NIMBYs who will proudly claim "I don't care what color your skin is or where you're from" or " I don't see color" or any such nonsense. However, have a black family move in and they're all up in arms, worrying about their property value going down or all the crime the black family will bring. Or they get suspicious is they see a black person walking down their street or in a parking lot or whatever.

I had a friend (white) who was dating a black dude. They decided to move in together. They were both decent, working people. They rented a house in a white neighborhood. They had rocks thrown through their windows, "n-----s go home" spray painted", and a bomb threat against them. All in a nice, Lonk Islant neighborhood. No, no racism on LI at all!

Lonk Islant is about as racist as you're going to get. Nothing surprising about that article at all.
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Old 11-20-2013, 08:18 AM
 
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I never quite understood the concept of "hate crimes." A crime is a crime. It should be prosecuted as such. To try to assign a specific thought in the perps mind seems to be a stretch. Someone commits murder because he doesn't like your personality(not a hate crime). Someone commits murder because he doesn't like your race(hate crime). Result is still the same. There is a dead person, and someone is responsible. Sentence should be the same.

Because there are people who will go out specifically to target people of a certain race just to perpetrate a crime on them as in the case of the hispanic dude who was murdered by a group of white thugs who were specifically targeting hispanics.

No, it doesn't make anyone more or less dead or whatever but the act of targeting someone ONLY because they are white/black/hispanic/asian should carry extra penalties.
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Old 11-20-2013, 08:46 AM
 
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This article doesn't mean anything. All it states is hate crimes that were "reported". I can report a hate crime because someone keeps looking at me the wrong way.

I think what's important is the outcome of those reported crimes such as prosecutions. I also find it odd that in Nassau County the number of reported hate crimes dropped significantly.

Those stats seem off. Queens nearly doubled since 2008? I find that hard to believe. If crime increased I don't believe it to be due to "hate" crimes. Queens has changed considerably over the years but I wouldn't attribute the increase based on hate.
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Old 11-20-2013, 09:03 AM
 
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This article doesn't mean anything. All it states is hate crimes that were "reported". I can report a hate crime because someone keeps looking at me the wrong way.

I think what's important is the outcome of those reported crimes such as prosecutions. I also find it odd that in Nassau County the number of reported hate crimes dropped significantly.

Those stats seem off. Queens nearly doubled since 2008? I find that hard to believe. If crime increased I don't believe it to be due to "hate" crimes. Queens has changed considerably over the years but I wouldn't attribute the increase based on hate.
So in other words you dont believe the stats but didnt provide any substance to discredit them? Gotcha
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